Find Moment of Inertia with Rotational Spectrum Wavelengths

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a molecule, specifically HCl, using wavelengths from its rotational spectrum. Participants are examining the relationship between the wavelengths and the moment of inertia through relevant equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of the equation I=(Hbar * wavelength)/(hc) and its units. There is discussion about using the shortest wavelength for calculations and how to relate wavelengths to energy transitions between rotational levels.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the energy levels of the HCl molecule and how they relate to the wavelengths. There is ongoing exploration of the equation's derivation and the implications of the spectral lines in relation to the moment of inertia.

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There is a lack of explicit consensus on the correct approach to using the wavelengths for calculating the moment of inertia, and participants are navigating through assumptions regarding the transitions in the rotational spectrum.

Pengwuino
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Ok so i have 5 wavelengths of the rotational spectrum of a certain molecule. I need to find the moment of inertia.

I have the equation down to I=(Hbar * wavelength)/(hc)

Do i just use the shortest wavelength to figure out the moment of intertia? No radius was given.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Ok so i have 5 wavelengths of the rotational spectrum of a certain molecule. I need to find the moment of inertia.

I have the equation down to I=(Hbar * wavelength)/(hc)

Do i just use the shortest wavelength to figure out the moment of intertia? No radius was given.

How did you get this formula? Check it. The unit of I should be mass times length squared and you have "second".

ehild
 
The book gave me the equation and i figured what 'I' would be. Its an HCl module molecule.
 
Pengwuino said:
I have the equation down to I=(Hbar * wavelength)/(hc)
I don't know where that equation comes from--the units don't make sense.

Treating the HCL molecule as a rigid rotor, the allowable rotational energy levels are:
[tex]E_J = J (J +1) \frac {\hbar^2}{2I}[/tex]

You should be able to relate the wavelengths to transitions between levels.
 
Doc Al said:
I don't know where that equation comes from--the units don't make sense.

Treating the HCL molecule as a rigid rotor, the allowable rotational energy levels are:
[tex]E_J = J (J +1) \frac {\hbar^2}{2I}[/tex]

You should be able to relate the wavelengths to transitions between levels.

To Pendwuino:


It has to be known that only such transitions are allowed where J changes by +1 or -1. If you have absorption spectrum the spectrum lines correspond to the transitions from J to J+1. In an emission spectrum, it is the opposite, the molecule emits a photon while it gets back from the J+1-th rotational level to the J-th one.

The energy of a the photon emitted is

[tex]hf=((J+2)(J+1)-J(J+1))\frac{\hbar^2}{2I}=(J+1)\frac{\hbar^2}{I}[/tex]
The emission spectrum of a two-atomic molecule consists of equidistant spectral lines, which correspond to transitions on to the levels J=0, J=1...and so on. The difference between the frequencies of two closest lines is
[tex]\Delta f = \frac{h}{4\pi^2I}[/tex]
You know the wavelength of the spectral lines. Calculate the frequencies from the wavelengths
[tex]f=c/\lambda[/tex]. Sort the frequencies and calculate the difference between the subsequent ones. Take the average: and calculate I from it.

ehild
 

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