Using Differential Equations to Solve for Velocity of a Free Falling Body

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The discussion revolves around a problem from a differential equations class concerning the velocity of a free-falling body, described by the differential equation h'' = -g. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that the body lands with a specific velocity derived from its initial height h(0).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods to derive the velocity, including energy conservation and differential equation techniques. The original poster expresses uncertainty about whether their approaches align with the instructor's expectations. Others clarify that one of the methods used is indeed a differential equation approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationship between height, time, and velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the differential equation and its implications for finding the landing velocity.

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There is a suggestion that the instructor may be looking for a specific method of solution related to differential equations, which adds a layer of complexity to the problem. The original poster also indicates a need for clarification on the expected approach.

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1) Show that since a body falling freely obeys the differential equation [tex]h''=-g[/itex], if it falls from an initial height [itex]h(0)[/itex], it lands with a velocity of [itex]-\sqrt{2gh(0)}[/itex]<br /> <br /> This problem is from a differential equations class and I solved it two different ways:<br /> <br /> <u><b>Method 1</b></u>:<br /> [itex]\frac {dh} {dt}=v[/itex] and [itex]\frac {dv} {dt}=a[/itex] which leads to [itex]\int{a dh}=\int{v dv}[/itex] and solving for v gives you [itex]v=\sqrt{2gh}[/itex]<br /> <br /> <u><b>Method 2</b></u>:<br /> Use [itex]KE=PE[/itex], so [itex]\frac{1}{2}mv^2=mgh[/itex]<br /> and solve for v which gives you [itex]v=\sqrt{2gh}[/itex].<br /> <br /> Unfortunately I don't think this is what the instructor is looking for. The wording of the question suggests he wants me to use differential equations techniques. I solved the DE to get [itex]h=-\frac{1}{2}gt^2+c_1t+c_2[/itex] but I'm not seeing how that will get me to [itex]v=-\sqrt{2gh(0)}[/itex]<br /> <br /> Can anyone help me?[/tex]
 
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The velocity's equation v(t) is [itex]v(t)=v_{0}-gt[/itex] If u take the initial velocity to be zero and u found the falling time in terms of the height,then it's easy to get

[tex]v\left(t_{\mbox{falling}\right)=-\sqrt{2g h(0)}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
Actually, your "method 1" is a differential equation method.

However, you can, as you say get [tex]h(t)= -\frac{1}{2}gt^2+ c_1t+ c_2[/tex] and then [tex]v(t)= h'(t)= -gt+ c_1[/tex].
Taking t= 0 to be the moment the body is dropped, h(0)= c_2 and v(0)= c_1= 0 so
[tex]h(t)= -\frac{1}{2}gt^2+ h(0)[/tex] and [tex]v(t)= -gt[/tex].

The body "lands" when h(t)= 0. Solve [tex]h(t)= -\frac{1}{2}gt^2+ h(0)= 0[/tex], which is thesame as [tex]t^2= \frac{2h(0)}{g}[/tex], (of course, you only want the positive root) and put into v(t)= -gt to find speed with which it lands.
 
Thanks for helping me out...I don't know why, but the answer wasn't immediately apparent to me. I need a break :-p
 

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