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Techman07
May31-05, 12:27 PM
Looking for help on a certain project. I have posted the project in pdf format


http://home.ripway.com/2005-5/317800/proj1sum05.pdf

I have already solved the first problem (a), but problem b (finding the angle) doesn't make intuitive sense to me.If you all could be so kind, all ideas are greatly appreciated. Maybe if I understood the question better that would also help.

Corneo
May31-05, 04:54 PM
Well you are given the equation of the curve created by the cable. Thus you can find the tangent line to to curve at x=\pm b. Thus you can create a triangle using the tangent line as the hypotenuse, a pole as a vertical leg, and the horizontal line tangent to the minimum of the curve. Try drawing a picture.

Techman07
May31-05, 06:50 PM
man i don't even think I did number one right now....

whozum
May31-05, 07:03 PM
Maybe you'll see it better if its translated.

A curve with equation y = 2acosh(x/a) intersects the x axis at x = -b, b. Find the arclength of the curve. All you need to do is integrate arclength for x = -50 to 50.

Techman07
May31-05, 08:17 PM
I don't mind integrating it, but I just can't figure out what a is.....

Pyrrhus
May31-05, 08:44 PM
Have you read the problem? it states a is a positive constant...

Considering real valued functions, this means

\{ a \epsilon \Re | a > 0 \}

Corneo
Jun1-05, 01:11 AM
since the distance of the poles from another is 100m, then this means there are poles at x=\pm 50. From then you can solve for a since you know that S = 20 and you know what b is.

Techman07
Jun1-05, 06:05 AM
I end up with (a+20 = a cosh(50/a), I know that this in turn is the same as
[a + 20 = a (e^(50/a) + e^-50/a) all over 2). There are too many a's I still don't understand how to simplify, thank you for your help though.