How Much Mass Must Be Thrown Out for a Hot Air Balloon to Ascend Properly?

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The discussion revolves around a hot air balloon with a total mass M, which is experiencing a downward acceleration despite an upward lift force of 2Mg/3. The passenger is tasked with determining the fraction of mass that must be discarded to achieve an upward acceleration of g/2.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between lift force, weight, and acceleration, with some attempting to apply Newton's second law to find the necessary mass to be thrown out. There are questions about the correct expression of total mass after discarding items.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance on how to set up the equations correctly. There is an acknowledgment of a mistake in previous calculations regarding the expression of total mass, leading to a clearer understanding of the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's parameters, including the fixed upward lift force and the desired acceleration. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct application of physical laws without reaching a definitive conclusion yet.

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Hi.
There is a hot air balloon with total mass M. There is an upward lift force of 2Mg/3 but the balloon is accelerating downward at a rate of g/3. The passenger needs to make the balloon lighter and starts throwing things of. What fraction of the total weight must he drop overboard so that the balloon accelerates upward at a rate of g/2.

I come up with the fact that the upward lift force must equal the weight plus the acceleration. But I get a wrong answear. The correct answear is 5/9. Can someone give me a hint to this problem please.
 
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Have been trying all possible ways with the facts I have, have not been able to come up with the right answear.
 
Show your work and we can take a look.

Here are a few hints: The upward buoyant force (2Mg/3) will remain the same even after the passenger throws things out of the balloon. After the passenger tosses out some stuff, the new total mass of the balloon will be smaller. Call it "xM" (where x is some fraction). Now write Newton's 2nd law and solve for x.
 
OK. I tried solving for x and this is what I got.

2Mg/3=(M-xM)g + (M-xM)g/2 The upward force should be equal to the weight + acceleration.

So this should be:

2Mg/3 = (M-xM)3g/2
4Mg/3 = 3Mg - 3xMg
(4Mg/3) - 3Mg = -3xMg

or 5Mg = 9xMg or x=5/9

This is the right answear, so I guess this is one way of solving this.

In my former calculations I forgot to express the total mass as (M-xM) I just put xM. Guess that was the big mistake I did.


Thanks for the hint
 
Swatch said:
OK. I tried solving for x and this is what I got.

2Mg/3=(M-xM)g + (M-xM)g/2 The upward force should be equal to the weight + acceleration.
Better to say it this way: The net force equals the mass x acceleration, and the net force equals the buoyant force minus the weight.

You used "xM" to represent the amount of mass tossed out. Good.
 

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