When you solve a problem incorrectly, what's the usual culprit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the common reasons for making mistakes when solving mathematical problems. Participants explore whether these errors are typically due to simple mistakes, such as miscalculations, or deeper misunderstandings of the concepts involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that "stupid mistakes," such as forgetting a minus sign, are the primary culprits in their problem-solving errors.
  • Others argue that misapplication of skills or a lack of understanding of the material can also lead to mistakes, emphasizing the importance of comprehension over mere computation.
  • A participant notes that the equation e = -1 is often presented in a different form, e + 1 = 0, highlighting its mathematical significance.
  • Another participant expresses that the majority of their errors are due to simple mistakes, estimating that over 80% of the time, this is the case.
  • There is a light-hearted comment about the desire to incorporate other mathematical constants into the equation for fun, reflecting a playful engagement with the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that simple mistakes are a significant source of error, but there is no consensus on whether these are the primary cause compared to misunderstandings of concepts. Multiple views on the nature of errors remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the importance of understanding the material rather than just performing computations, indicating a potential limitation in teaching approaches that focus solely on procedural skills.

What causes you to screw up an equation?

  • "Stupid" Mistakes

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • Solving the problem incorrectly

    Votes: 1 20.0%

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When you solve a problem incorrectly, what's the usual culprit? Is it a "stupid mistake" (such as accidentally adding when you should have subtracted, etc.) or is it a misapplication of a skill?

For myself, as I go along in my learning, whenever I get into trouble in an equation, 9 times out of 10 it's some stupid mistake, like accidently leaving off the minus sign of a negative number, or something. Rarely is it because I divided wrong, or thought I understood what to do and found out I didn't.

What screws you up?

[tex]e^i^\pi=-1[/tex]

The Rev
 
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Is there a reason that equation's posted?
 
whozum said:
Is there a reason that equation's posted?

No, sorry. I just love elegant stuff like that, so I place it between the end of my post and my name. It's a self-indulgence thing.

[tex]\phi[/tex]

The Rev
 
Oh cool.

[tex]x = 0[/tex]
 
That equation is usually written as

[tex]e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0[/tex]

because of the "mystique" of having e, pi, i, addition, multiplication, exponentiation, multiplicative identity, equality, and the additive identity in a neat little package.
 
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minus signs are probably the biggest source of error.

or just in general making computations as opposed to understanding what is going on.

this is why we try to teach our students to want to understand the material as opposed to merely compute.
 
For me it is completely stupid mistakes, or I should at least say 80+% of the time.
 
Icebreaker said:
That equation is usually written as

[tex]e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0[/tex]

because of the "mystique" of having e, pi, i, addition, multiplication, exponentiation, multiplicative identity, equality, and the additive identity in a neat little package.

If we could work [tex]\phi[/tex] and [tex]\frac{1}{137}[/tex] in there somehow, we might have the meaning of life. (Wouldn't it be cool if the resulting equation solved to 42?)

[tex]-0[/tex]

The Rev
 

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