How can I determine the area between two curves?

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The discussion focuses on determining the area between two curves, exploring methods of integration and the correct approach to find limits of integration. It encompasses conceptual understanding and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests multiplying the functions and equating to zero to find limits, indicating a misunderstanding of the process.
  • Another participant corrects this by explaining that the area is found by subtracting the lower function from the upper function and integrating the difference over the limits defined by their intersection points.
  • A third participant reiterates the need to find where the curves intersect to determine the limits of integration.
  • There is a question about which function to subtract in cases of quadratic functions, prompting a request for clarification on identifying the lower function.
  • Some participants recommend graphing the functions or evaluating test points to determine which function is lower.

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Participants generally disagree on the initial approach to finding the area, with some advocating for multiplication and others emphasizing subtraction of functions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to clarify the concept.

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Some participants express confusion about the correct method to find limits and the process of integration, indicating a need for clearer definitions and understanding of the concepts involved.

mathelord
I want to know how the area between two curves can be determined,do i just multiply the functions and then equate everything to 0,so i can get the limits,and the integrate the multiplied function within those limits
 
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Mathelord, your description indicates some confusion. I plotted two functions:

[tex]y1(x)=x^2[/tex]

[tex]y2(x)=-x^2+4x[/tex]

To find the area between them, in this particular case, you would subtract them:

[tex]A=\int_0^2 [y2(x)-y1(x)] dx[/tex]

[tex]=\int_0^2[(-x^2+4x)-x^2] dx[/tex]

You can do the rest right?
 

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mathelord said:
I want to know how the area between two curves can be determined,do i just multiply the functions and then equate everything to 0,so i can get the limits,and the integrate the multiplied function within those limits
NO, you don't "multiply the functions" OR "equate everything to 0"! I wonder where you would have gotten the idea that you should multiply the two functions. The limits of integration are the values of x where the area "ends"- where the two curves intersect. To find where the curves y= f(x) and y= g(x) intersect, solve y= f(x)= g(x).

Don't "integrate the multiplied function". Remember the "Riemann sums" that become the integral? Each term is the area of a skinny rectangle with width Δx and height the difference between the two functions: f(x)- g(x). You integrate the difference between the two functions.
 
do i just subtract one from the other,which is the exact on to be subtracted from
 
Subtract the lower function from the higher function.

In Saltydog's example the lower function is x^2 and the upper function is 4x-x^2.
 
in cases like ax^2+bx+c,and -ax^2-bx-c.which is the lower function so i can get one integrated
 
Just graph them and check, or evaluate a test point, f(x) and g(x) to see which is lower.
 

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