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Icebreaker
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/10554
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So instead, I'll just say: Can We Trust Our Government?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around skepticism regarding claims made in an article about U.S. soldiers allegedly going AWOL to Ireland. Participants examine the credibility of the source and the plausibility of the claims, engaging in a mix of humor and critical analysis.
Discussion Character
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- Exploratory
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants express skepticism about the article's claims, particularly regarding the assertion that over 5,000 U.S. soldiers have gone AWOL to Ireland.
- Concerns are raised about the credibility of the source, TBRNews.org, with participants suggesting it may be unreliable or speculative.
- Participants question the feasibility of such a large number of soldiers being unnoticed in Ireland, with humorous remarks about their presence and the local infrastructure.
- There is mention of the Department of Defense releasing names of soldiers killed, implying that a significant number of omissions would be widely noticed by families and the public.
- Some participants argue that it is easier to conceal financial discrepancies than to hide the alleged AWOL situation.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally express skepticism about the claims made in the article, but there is no consensus on the validity of the arguments presented. Multiple competing views remain regarding the credibility of the source and the plausibility of the claims.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include the reliance on the credibility of the source and the assumptions made about public awareness of military personnel movements. The discussion does not resolve the validity of the claims or the implications of the alleged AWOL situation.
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jma2001
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That article came from TBRNews.org.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barnes_Review
Be careful whose candy you're eating.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barnes_Review
Be careful whose candy you're eating.
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hypatia
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After reading the article this was taken from, I am more then skeptical. If he ever provides proof of his details, I would give it a second look, maybe.
He{Brian Harring, Domestic Intelligence Reporter}claims 5,000+ US soldgers have gone awol to Ireland? Don't you think the Irish would of noticed?
He{Brian Harring, Domestic Intelligence Reporter}claims 5,000+ US soldgers have gone awol to Ireland? Don't you think the Irish would of noticed?
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Rabid
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That would be a pretty big thing to cover up. There are a number of journalists, non-corporate news sources, and organizations who wouldn't hesitate to cover a story like this, if it was real.
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Evo
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Thanks, reading his link was enough to dismiss it as wild speculation, but nice to know more about the source.jma2001 said:
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Rabid
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The DOD releases the names of those killed.
There are also a number of sites with detailed information.
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/honor.html
http://icasualties.org/oif/Details.aspx
If over 7,000 name have been omitted from the lists, there would be several times that number (family, friends, associates) raising hell about it.
There are also a number of sites with detailed information.
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/honor.html
http://icasualties.org/oif/Details.aspx
If over 7,000 name have been omitted from the lists, there would be several times that number (family, friends, associates) raising hell about it.
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Icebreaker
Yes, it was too much of a cover up to be believable. It sounded plausible because I can see the DoD saying those "killed in Iraq" are literally those KIA in Iraq. It wouldn't be the first time some twist of words are used to change numbers.
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cronxeh
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oh that is hilarious. us marines/army going awol and to ireland?
ahahahahahaha. oh wow only someone who never been to United States could write such crappy propaganda.
ahahahahahaha. oh wow only someone who never been to United States could write such crappy propaganda.
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Rabid
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It's far easier to make billions of dollars disappear without anyone caring.
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Icebreaker
Rabid said:
Sad, but true.
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Art
They are certainly not here in Irelandhypatia said:
. If they were they would nearly outnumber our own armed forces of 8500. Unless of course they are all cunningly disguised as sheep! 
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quetzalcoatl9
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Art said:They are certainly not here in Ireland
are there enough pubs in ireland to even support 5000 US soldiers?
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Art
Since the government here banned smoking in pubs they'd have the pubs practically to themselves.quetzalcoatl9 said:are there enough pubs in ireland to even support 5000 US soldiers?
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The Smoking Man
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Art said:Unless of course they are all cunningly disguised as sheep!
Through an amazing act of restraint, I have managed to prevent myself from making a comment on the above that would probably have had me banned forever.