Alleged serial killer says 'I enjoy the excitement of Quake'

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between violent video games, specifically Quake, and violent behavior, sparked by a post from a user who identifies as a serial killer and expresses enjoyment of the game. Participants explore various perspectives on gaming, violence, and parenting.

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  • One participant, Jet Duncan, seeks advice on improving his gaming experience with Quake II and Quake III, suggesting that his joystick may be inadequate for competitive play.
  • Another participant argues that using a joystick is a disadvantage compared to using a mouse for gaming, recommending specific mouse models for better control.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of a serial killer enjoying video games, with one participant questioning whether interests in games like Quake could be linked to violent behavior.
  • Another participant calls for comparative statistics on violent behavior among gamers versus non-gamers, suggesting that historical figures like Jack the Ripper did not require video games to commit violence.
  • A participant shares their personal experience with violent media, asserting that enjoyment of such content does not correlate with violent tendencies, emphasizing the importance of education and understanding of societal violence.
  • There is a discussion about the motivations behind violent actions, with one participant suggesting that individuals have specific motives for their actions, regardless of their interests in video games.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between video games and violent behavior, with no consensus reached on whether gaming contributes to violence or if it serves as a harmless outlet for aggression.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the influence of video games on behavior, the effectiveness of parenting approaches, and the motivations behind violent actions, which remain unresolved.

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Jet Duncan Mar 17 2001, 9:41 pm show options

Newsgroups: alt.games.quake2
From: "Jet Duncan" <j...@usa.net> - Find messages by this author
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:39:47 -0600
Local: Thurs,Mar 15 2001 9:39 pm
Subject: Old man Rookie would like help finding a decent game controller for Quake II and Quake III
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I enjoy the excitement of Quake, but when I go to a frag match I get
creamed. I just can't seem to control my weapons as well as everyone else.
My system is no sissy, but My joystick might be (InterAct Raider Pro
Digital). Is there a better joystick, or maybe I just need to configure it?
I'll take any suggestions, thanks


!

For those who do not know, this is Joseph "Jet" Duncan:
planethuff.com/darkside

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Btw he gets "creamed" because he uses a joystick. He should use a mouse. RAzer boomslang or at least a logitech.
 
So? Whats your point? If it was found out that if he was also into classical opera would you think that contributed to his criminal behavior ?
 
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So? Whats your point? If it was found out that if he was also into classical opera would you think that contributed to his criminal behavior ?

Exactly...I would like to see some comparative statistics that show the proportion of violent criminal behavior of criminals that play games like Quake to those violent criminals who have never played games like Quake.

Jack the ripper didn't need video games to get motivated now did he.
 
I play violent video/computer games - blow stuff up, etc etc. I watch many violent videos including gore, skin avulsion, blown up heads of cadavers by US snipers in Iraq, all kinds of really bad trauma stuff - to get a taste of what's to come for a work in an ambulance.

And I can assure you - I'm absolutely not violent :biggrin: I even try to avoid stepping on the ants as I walk back home at night. Its all a matter of education and other factors - you can be a Math PhD and send out bombs in the mail, or you can be a Chemical Engineer and an ex-Army guy who swore to protect the citizens and blow up federal buildings. It doesn't matter. If you decide to do it - you will.

In each of those cases the men and women who commited violent crimes had some motive - there was action and reaction - a cause and effect. Try to work on confronting the causes and effects with your children and you won't have a problem. You can't just say 'killing is bad' NO, its NOT! Its wrong and your kid won't trust you subconsciously. If you tell them that its bad because it says so in the Bible - so what? If the kid is really that dumb to believe you, yea I guess he won't do it. You should talk to your kid and explain that in our society we are always on the lookout for our backs - don't make him/her too paranoid - but don't let their guards down. If they are not prepared for this simple fact of life, well perhaps they never really belonged in this society. Its not so simple to live around so many millions of people where not everyone will have a straight face or same color of the skin as you are - the violence as well as killing will always be there

Some people vent out their anger through video games. You should be very grateful those games and this technology exists so I don't have to go places and do bad things to people.