Is the Philippines About to Split into Three Countries?

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The discussion revolves around the potential fragmentation of the Philippines into three separate countries, focusing on recent meetings among regional leaders in Mindanao and the Visayas. Participants explore the implications of these meetings, the historical context of political instability, and the influence of external factors on the situation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that meetings among governors and mayors in Mindanao and the Visayas are indicative of regional frustrations with political dynamics in Manila.
  • Others express skepticism about the likelihood of the Philippines splitting, citing the prospect as "extremely remote."
  • Several posts shift the focus to U.S. foreign policy and its historical impact on the Philippines, with some arguing that external meddling has contributed to the country's instability.
  • A few participants challenge the relevance of the discussion, suggesting that the topic does not hold significance outside the Philippines.
  • One participant highlights that this is the first time leaders have met to discuss the possibility of fragmentation, which has been a long-standing demand of certain rebel groups.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of skepticism and concern regarding the fragmentation of the Philippines, with no consensus on the likelihood or implications of such a scenario. Some focus on external influences, while others emphasize internal political dynamics.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the historical context of political instability and the influence of foreign policy, but these points remain unresolved and are subject to differing interpretations.

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Has anyone noticed anything about the Philippines as a nation about to split into about three different countries:

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/dav/2005/07/12/news/mindanao.leaders.meet.in.davao.city.tuesday.html

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/157241/1/.html

On Tuesday a meeting of governors, congressmen and mayors from the southern island of Mindanao will be held in Davao City to discuss the future of what is potentially one of the richest corners of the Philippines.

Governors from the western, central and eastern Visayas, in the central Philippines, are also talking of forming a federal Visayas republic.

They and some mayors will meet in Cebu the same day to discuss the concept further.

The prospect of the Philippines breaking up is extremely remote. But analysts said the meetings reflect frustration over how political feuding in Manila is holding back regional development.

The meeting should be under way about now.
 
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Nah, we can't be bothered with it unless there is oil, or nukes, or need for a military base, or... :rolleyes:

After supporting a corrupt dictator (Marcos) for 20 some years, the U.S. finally left him to fall, and the country with him. Look what years of foreign meddling and religious conflict can do for a country.
 
SOS2008 said:
Nah, we can't be bothered with it unless there is oil, or nukes, or need for a military base, or... :rolleyes:

After supporting a corrupt dictator (Marcos) for 20 some years, the U.S. finally left him to fall, and the country with him. Look what years of foreign meddling and religious conflict can do for a country.
I thought my apathometer had just gone off the scale.

America does understand that if Mindanao goes, it will be a new Moslem nation?
 
Wow! It took only one reply to have this blamed on the US.

How long will it be before Bush gets blamed for water being so damn wet these days??
 
Ron_Damon said:
Wow! It took only one reply to have this blamed on the US.

How long will it be before Bush gets blamed for water being so damn wet these days??
Bad analogy.

We say water IS wet.

The party faithful in the USA say a) water isn't wet and b) if it is, we made it so and if it wasn't supposed to be and you don't believe us c) you're against us.
 
Ron_Damon said:
How long will it be before Bush gets blamed for water being so damn wet these days??
But he is !

If not for his pathetic environmental (non)policy, green-house emissions would be much lower. But thanks to Bush, the polar ice caps are melting in a hurry, thus making sea-water less salty and hence, more wet. QED
 
I don't see a problem with another Muslim nation, people can believe in what ever God they choose.
 
I give up. Bush is responsible for making water wet. I'll be registering Democrat tomorrow. Maybe we could start a campaign for his negligence in allowing a measly 24 hour day? Let's have him make the planet rotate more slowly, damn it!
 
Ron_Damon said:
I give up. Bush is responsible for making water wet. I'll be registering Democrat tomorrow. Maybe we could start a campaign for his negligence in allowing a measly 24 hour day? Let's have him make the planet rotate more slowly, damn it!
Cool.

So how many million more do we have to convince?
:biggrin:
 
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As usual the point is missed. It is not about being Republican or Democrat. It is about Bush being the worst president in our history, and many who surround him in his regime are just as disgusting. Just please vote for decent candidates in 2006 and 2008. Heck, I would even be elated to have a McCain or Giuliani. At least they have real qualifications for the job. In the meantime, if you want to defend Bush, please tell us what he has done that has been so wonderful.
 
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The Smoking Man said:
Has anyone noticed anything about the Philippines as a nation about to split into about three different countries:
[from the quoted link] The prospect of the Philippines breaking up is extremely remote.
Apathy? No, just that this is neither interesting nor relevant to anything outside the Phillippines. The words extremely remote and that means that the writer of the story (and the thread) wasted his time.
 
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russ_watters said:
Apathy? No, just that this is neither interesting nor relevant to anything outside the Phillippines. The words extremely remote and that means that the writer of the story (and the thread) wasted his time.

Yes that's true. The philipines is not going to break up anytime soon. However it is still quite politically instable.
 
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russ_watters said:
Apathy? No, just that this is neither interesting nor relevant to anything outside the Phillippines. The words extremely remote and that means that the writer of the story (and the thread) wasted his time.
However!

This is the first time in the history of the country that the people in power have met to discuss such an option.

This has always been the demand of the rebels with these people maintaining that they would always remain loyal.
 
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The continuing saga:

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/dav/2005/07/13/news/rallies.mark.mindanao.leaders.summit.html
 
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