Geometric Problems: Can You Help Me Find Solutions?

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The discussion revolves around several geometric problems posed by a new member, focusing on properties of triangles, circumcircles, and relationships within parallelograms. The problems include proving certain properties of triangles, finding integer side lengths for a triangle inscribed in a circle, and exploring the implications of a line splitting a triangle.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why the triangles must be isosceles, suggesting that any three sides can form a triangle if they satisfy the triangle inequality.
  • One participant proposes using the sine rule and cosine rule to find the sides of the triangle inscribed in a circle, noting the complexity of finding integer solutions.
  • Another participant suggests that the third problem may only hold true for equilateral triangles, but later retracts this assertion, indicating uncertainty about its validity.
  • A hint is provided for problem 3, suggesting the use of a bisector to analyze the relationship between the segments created by the line splitting the triangle.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the existence of solutions for the problems, particularly for the third problem, except in special cases.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of the claims regarding the properties of triangles and the existence of solutions to the posed problems. No consensus is reached on the correctness of the approaches or the existence of solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of finding integer solutions and the potential limitations of the problems based on specific cases, such as equilateral triangles.

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Readers interested in geometric properties, triangle inequalities, and problem-solving strategies in mathematics may find this discussion relevant.

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Problem 1
Prove that if for {a, b, c} R and all n N there exists
a triangle with the sides an, bn and cn, then all of these triangles
are isoscoles.


Problem 2
A circle with a radius of 6.25 is circumscribed around a triangle
with the sides a, b and c. Find these sides, if {a, b, c} N.

Problem 3
A line splits a triangle into two new figures with equal perimeters
and areas. Prove that the center of the inscribed circle lies on this line.


Problem 4
The eight lines that connect the vertices of a parallelogram with the
centers of the two opposite sides form an octogon. Prove that the
octogon's area is exactly one sixth the area of the parallelogram



please guys I'm a new member here can you help me in these geometry problems?
 
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1] Why should it be isosceles?
Any three sides form a triangle if,
sum of any two sides is greater than the third side

Once such a triangle is formed i guess any integer multiple of the lengths work!
a+b<c
then na+nb<nc

2] Probably some clumsy work in the offing here,
a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC = 2R
find cosines using the cosine rule, convert them to sines and sub it above.
So you should find 3 bizarre equations in 3 unknowns, now the biggest trouble is solving them for integer solutions?? I am not sure if that's any easier :rolleyes:

-- AI
P.S-> The 3rd question seems interesting, must check it
 
thanx tenaliraman
 
any 1 for 3 and 4
 
problem 3
works only with equilateral triangles
 
come to think of it. doesn't work at all.
 
Ebn_Alnafees, you should give the problems a try and post as much of your work as possible here. Read the sticky thread.
Problem 3: Hint : Draw one bisector that cut the line. Call the intersection of that bisector and the line E. What do you reckon? If the line cuts 2 legs AB (at F), and AC (at G), then the bisector should go through A, so the distance between E and AB, AC is the same.
Use what the problem tells you : The two new figure have the same perimeters and area.
Hope you get it.
Viet Dao,
 
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can you email me the answer. from how i understand the question. there's no solution. except the special cases of isosolese and equilateral triangles split congruently.
 

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