Finding the charge on the outer surface of the conductor

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The discussion revolves around a problem in electrostatics concerning an isolated conductor with a net charge and an internal point charge. Participants are exploring the implications of charge distribution on the conductor's surfaces.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the charge on the cavity wall and the outer surface of the conductor based on the net charge and the internal point charge. Questions arise regarding the significance of charge signs in calculations.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculation of the outer surface charge based on the net charge and the charge on the cavity wall. There is an ongoing exploration of the importance of including charge signs in mathematical expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of charge distribution in conductors, particularly in relation to the rules governing charge behavior in electrostatics. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between net charge and induced charges on surfaces.

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Hello everyone. I'm having troubles getting the last part of this question. An isolated conductor of arbitreary shape has a net charge of +10x10^-6C. Inside the conductor is a cavity within which is a point charge q = +3.0x10^-6C. What is the charge (a) on the cavity wall and (b) on the outer surface of the conductor?


I got (a) which is -3.0x10^-6C because the charge insdie a conductor has to be 0. But (b) is +1.3x10^-5C. I have no idea how they came up with this.
 
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mr_coffee said:
Hello everyone. I'm having troubles getting the last part of this question. An isolated conductor of arbitreary shape has a net charge of +10x10^-6C. Inside the conductor is a cavity within which is a point charge q = +3.0x10^-6C. What is the charge (a) on the cavity wall and (b) on the outer surface of the conductor?


I got (a) which is -3.0x10^-6C because the charge insdie a conductor has to be 0. But (b) is +1.3x10^-5C. I have no idea how they came up with this.
charges on a conductor can only exist on the surfaces (like the outer surfaces, or the wall surface of an internal cavity). the problem states the total NET charge on the conductor (surfaces) is +10x10(-6) Coulombs. since you've already correctly determined the internal cavity surface charge to be -3.0x10(-6) C, the remainder must be on the outer surface:
outer surface charge = (total NET charge) - (inner cavity surface charge)
= (+10x10(-6)) - (-3.0x10(-6))
= +1.3x10(-5) C
 
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awesome thanks, but i don't understand why in your calculation you included the negative sign with the charge, i thought it has no mathamatical significance?
 
mr_coffee said:
awesome thanks, but i don't understand why in your calculation you included the negative sign with the charge, i thought it has no mathamatical significance?
charge sign ("+" or "-") is generally significant and should be included in your calculations.
 

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