Calculate Input Impedance of a Small Circuit at 13.56 MHz

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The discussion revolves around calculating the input impedance of a small loop antenna resonating at 13.56 MHz, specifically addressing the discrepancies in expected and calculated impedance values. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of impedance in antenna circuits, including the effects of various components like capacitors and inductors.

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  • One participant questions how to calculate the input impedance of a loop antenna tuned to 50 ohms, expressing confusion over the results obtained from MATLAB calculations.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the impedance equation provided but emphasizes the need to use the correct frequency for calculations.
  • There is a discussion about the origin of the 50 ohm impedance, with one participant noting that the resistance of the coil is much lower than expected.
  • Participants mention that the impedance of the antenna involves complex calculations that typically require numerical methods rather than analytical solutions.
  • One participant asserts that the coil, while having low DC resistance, behaves like a resistor due to radiation resistance when functioning as an efficient antenna.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of radiation in inductive antennas, suggesting that they do not radiate energy and questions the existence of impedance in such coils.
  • Responses indicate that the coil does indeed radiate energy, particularly at the specified frequency, countering the previous claim about its behavior.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of impedance in inductive antennas and the role of radiation resistance, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a consensus on the calculations or theoretical implications.

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Participants highlight the complexity of antenna impedance calculations and the potential for numerical methods to yield different results than expected analytical approaches. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the behavior of inductive antennas in terms of energy radiation.

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Hi,
I have some problems in understanding how to calculate the input (is it input?) impedance of a small circuit. (I have attached the equiv. circuit with values )

The circuit is a small loop antenna that resonates at 13.56 MHz and is tuned to 50 ohm.

From the source point of view: a capacitor in series (Cmatch = 11.74 pF) and then 3 elements in paralell; a capacitor (Cres = 96.76 pF), resistance (Rp = 20050 ohm) and an inductance (L=1.27 microhenry)


The impedance seen from the source is 50 ohm, however I don´t understand how to reach that answer,as calculating with complex impedances should be straight forward:

[tex]Z = \frac{1}{\frac{1}{Rp}+\frac{1}{j\omega L}+j\omega Cr} +\frac{1}{j\omega Cm}[/tex]

Solving this equation with MATLAB takes me faaaar away from 50 ohm ...


Am I doing something fundamentally wrong?
(The circuit and values are from a Texas Instruments Paper, should give impedance = 50 ohm...?)


any help is appreciated

eirik
 

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Your equation is correct. Don't forget omega=2piFreq.
Regards
 
Thanks,

But where do these 50 ohm come from ("...the antenna provides something close to 50 ohm real part at its design frequency...". The resistance of the coil is much less...

If the circuit is tuned to 50 ohm, shouldn´t the input impedance be 50 ohm then??

Any reference to good web sites explaining this topic in detail is highly appreciated

regards
eirik
 
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temujin said:
Thanks,

But where do these 50 ohm come from ("...the antenna provides something close to 50 ohm real part at its design frequency...". The resistance of the coil is much less...

If the circuit is tuned to 50 ohm, shouldn´t the input impedance be 50 ohm then??

Any reference to good web sites explaining this topic in detail is highly appreciated

regards
eirik


The impedance of the antenna itself is a complex calculation that cannot
be (in general) done analytically. It must be done numerically for arbitrary
antennas.

The DC resistance of the coil is low. But once it is an effieicient antenna,
the energy flys away into space. It looks like a resistor except
no heat is generated. The coil will have something called "radiation
resistance" which means it looks like a resistance but it's not- it's radiating
energy.
 
But this is an inductive antenna (for RFID), receiver and transmitter antenna are like a loosely coupled transformer. It does not radiate any energy at all.
Does the coil still have any "impedance by itself"??

regards
eirik

Antiphon said:
The impedance of the antenna itself is a complex calculation that cannot
be (in general) done analytically. It must be done numerically for arbitrary
antennas.

The DC resistance of the coil is low. But once it is an effieicient antenna,
the energy flys away into space. It looks like a resistor except
no heat is generated. The coil will have something called "radiation
resistance" which means it looks like a resistance but it's not- it's radiating
energy.
 
temujin said:
But this is an inductive antenna (for RFID), receiver and transmitter antenna are like a loosely coupled transformer. It does not radiate any energy at all.
Does the coil still have any "impedance by itself"??

regards
eirik

The coil does radiate- in fact it's the only element in the circuit with any appreciable radiation at that frequency.
 

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