How to Prove the Area Between Two Curves with Integration Algebra?

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The discussion revolves around proving the area between two curves using integration, specifically focusing on the formula A=\frac{n-1}{n+1}, where n is the power of X. Participants are exploring the integration process and addressing potential mistakes in calculations.

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  • One participant asks for help in proving that the area between two curves is given by A=\frac{n-1}{n+1} based on the integrals of X^\frac{1}{n} and X^n.
  • Another participant inquires about the limits of the integrals, which are confirmed to be from 0 to 1.
  • Several participants discuss the process of performing the integrals and simplifying the results, with one participant expressing confusion over their calculations and seeking clarification.
  • A participant provides a partial solution for the first integral, showing the steps taken to evaluate it and asking if others can complete the second integral.
  • Another participant points out an error in the evaluation of the second integral, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying limits in the integration process.

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Participants generally agree on the limits of integration and the need to evaluate the integrals correctly, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations or the final area formula. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the integration steps and results.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the simplification process, indicating potential missing steps or misunderstandings in the integration technique.

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Howdy felles.

I have a question which I find rather confusing, and that is to prove that the area between two curves is given by [tex]A=\frac{n-1}{n+1}[/tex] where n is the power of X.


The equation is [tex]A=\int X^\frac{1}{n} dx - \int X^n dx[/tex]

Could someone please show me how to get this to equal to [tex]A=\frac{n-1}{n+1}[/tex]

I had a very diffrent answer. Plz help

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Are there limits on those integrals ?
 
The limits are from 0 to 1
 
First do the integrals
[tex]=\int_0^1 x^\frac{1}{n} dx[/tex]
and
[tex]=\int_0^1 x^n dx[/tex]
Then simplify and get a common denominator.
What did you get for the integrals?
 
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I am preety sure mine was wrong as I ended up with a diffrent answer. Can some one please check where I made mistake>

[tex]A=\int X^\frac {1}{n} dx - \int X^n dx[/tex]
[tex]A=\frac {[X^\frac {1}{n}+1]}{\frac {1}{n}+1} - \frac {[X^n+1}{n+1]}[/tex] Cant seem to make any progress from here onwards. All I do is make a massive mess of it and I have to do it again without any good signs.

Would really appreciate if anyone could help me.
 
I am preety sure mine was wrong as I ended up with a diffrent answer. Can some one please check where I made mistake>

[tex]A=\int X^\frac {1}{n} dx - \int X^n dx[/tex]
[tex]A=\frac {X^\frac {1}{n+1}}{\frac {1}{n}+1} - \frac {X^n+1}{n+1}[/tex] Cant seem to make any progress from here onwards. All I do is make a massive mess of it and I have to do it again without any good signs.

Would really appreciate if anyone could help me.
 
Also the limits of all these integrations are 0 to 1
 
Okay, you should remember that:
[tex]\int^{\beta}_{\alpha} f(x)dx = F(\beta) - F(\alpha)[/tex]
So I'll do for you the first one. And you can follow it to do the second:
[tex]\int^{1}_{0} x ^ {\frac{1}{n}}dx = \left[ \frac{x ^ {\frac{1 + n}{n}}}{\frac{1 + n}{n}} \right] ^{1}_{0} = \frac{1 ^ {\frac{n + 1}{n}} - 0 ^ {\frac{n + 1}{n}}}{\frac{1 + n}{n}} = \frac{n}{1 + n}[/tex]
So can you do the second integral?
Viet Dao,
 
I am still having abit trouble .

I am sposed to have [tex]A=\frac {n}{1+n} - \int^{o}_{1} X^n dx[/tex]

which I ended up getting [tex]\int^{1}_{0} X^n dx = \frac {1^n^+^1 - 0^n^+^1}{n+1}[/tex]
does it [tex]=\frac {n}{n+1}[/tex]
 
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Nope. Your integral is 'nearly' correct. The last part is wrong.
Remember : [tex]1 ^ m = 1, m \in \mathbb{R}[/tex]
[tex]0 ^ m = 0, m \in \mathbb{R} - \{0\}[/tex]
So [tex]1 ^ {n + 1} = 1[/tex]
Viet Dao,
 

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