How Does String Tension Vary with Position in Vertical Circular Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the tension in a string attached to a ball moving in a vertical circular motion. Participants are analyzing the differences in tension at the top and bottom of the circle, denoted as T_t and T_b, respectively, and are attempting to express this difference in terms of mass and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are discussing the equations for tension at different points in the circular motion and are attempting to relate the speeds at the top and bottom of the circle. There are questions about the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of energy differences.

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Some participants have provided corrections to the original equations and suggested alternative formulations. There is an ongoing examination of the energy conservation principles involved, with differing opinions on the final results and calculations. No consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are working under the assumption of negligible mechanical energy loss and are tasked with expressing the tension difference in specific terms. There is mention of a prior calculation involving energy differences that may need reevaluation.

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A ball of mass m is attached to a string of length . It is being swung in a vertical circle with enough speed so that the string remains taut throughout the ball's motion. Assume that the ball travels freely in this vertical circle with negligible loss of total mechanical energy. To avoid confusion, take the upward direction to be positive throughout the problem. At the top and bottom of the vertical circle, label the ball's speeds V_t and V_b, and label the corresponding tensions in the string T_t and T_b

Find T_b-T_T, the difference between the tension in the string at the bottom relative to that at the top of the circle.

Express the difference in tension in terms of m and g

The tension in the bottom i got was

T_b=v_b^2/L*m+(m*g)

the tension in the top i got was

T_t=m(-v_t^2/L)-m*g

to relate these and the total mech i did
v_t^2 =v_b^2-4*g*L

and i solved and i got 4*m*g and it marked it wrong saying "Check the energy difference between top and bottom in your calculation." can anyone help?
 
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T_t=m(-v_t^2/L)-m*g
This should be written as
T_t=m[(-v_t)^2/L]-m*g
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T_b - T_t = [v_b^2/L*m+(m*g)] - [m(-v_t^2/L)-m*g]=(m/L)(v_b^2 - V_t^2) +2mg
 
Your equations were right but you solved them incorrectly, i think the correct answer is 6mg.
 
o man ! I have not solved the equations but indicated the mistakes and written the equation as the value of (v_b^2 - V_t^2) is already calculated by Kchu as 4gL, sbstituting this in equation you will get your answer.
 

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