Explain: As x Approaches 0, Sinx/x & Tanx/x

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The discussion revolves around the limits of the functions sin(x)/x and tan(x)/x as x approaches 0. Participants explore the behavior of these functions from both the left and right sides, seeking clarification on the nature of these limits and their implications in calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the limits of sin(x)/x and tan(x)/x as x approaches 0, asking for clarification on the direction from which these limits are approached.
  • Another participant asserts that sin(x)/x approaches 1 from both sides as x approaches 0, indicating that the limit exists and is equal to 1. They make a similar claim for tan(x)/x.
  • A third participant provides a formal definition of limits, explaining how a function approaches a limit from the right or left side, using a different function as an example to illustrate the concept.
  • Another participant notes that the limit of sin(x)/x is a common limit that arises in the context of finding the derivative of sine, mentioning various methods to demonstrate this limit, including inequalities and integral definitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There appears to be general agreement among some participants that both limits exist and equal 1, but the initial confusion expressed by the first participant indicates that not all aspects of the discussion are resolved. The discussion includes both affirmations of the limits and a request for clarification, suggesting some uncertainty remains.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference different methods to demonstrate the limits, including inequalities and continuity arguments, but these methods are not universally accepted or agreed upon in the discussion.

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tends to 1 from??

i am confused on this one...my friend told me that as x->0 ,(sinx)/x tends to 1 from left hand side...similarly he said something abt tanx/x approaching 1 from right hand side...can anyone please explain this to me??
thanks..
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[itex]\frac{{\sin x}}{x}[/itex] tends to 1 when x goes to 0 from either left or right, therefore the limit exists and is 1.

Same goes for [itex]\frac{{\tan x}}{x}[/itex], it's valid for both sides so the limit is 1.

Btw, for small x, [itex]\tan \left( x \right) \approx \sin \left( x \right)[/itex]
 
A function f approaches a limit L as x approaches a value b from the right hand side if, for every positive number E, you can find a positive number d such that for all x in (a, a + d), |f(x) - L| < E. The same is true for the left hand side, but then you'd want to find a positive number d such that for all x in (a - d, a), |f(x) - L| < E. In simpler terms, numbers on the right hand side are greater than a certain number, which makes sense (on the number line, numbers increase to the right and decrease to the left). Taking a simpler example, try f(x) = 2x. This function approaches 12 as x approaches 6 from the left-hand side (it also approaches 12 as x approaches 6 from the right-hand side, so we simply say that f(x) approaches 12 as x approaches 6). So if you take values for x of 5, 5.5, 5.9, 5.99, 5.999, 5.999999, etc., then your values for f(x) will get closer and closer to 12.
 
This is a common limit.
in fact it arises in finding the derivative of sine
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}\sin(x)=\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin(x)}{x}\cos(x+\frac{h}{2})[/tex]
the limit can be shown several ways including showing that
cos(x)<sin(x)/x<1 for |x|<pi/2
or seeing that for the function f
[tex]f(x):=\int_0^1 \cos(x t) dt[/tex]
f is every where continuos and
f(x)=sin(x)/x for all x except x=0
(also xf(x)=sin(x))
 

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