Proving Integral of sin(θ) - cos(θ) = -(1/2)ln(2sin(2θ)+2)+C

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The discussion revolves around proving the integral of the expression involving sine and cosine functions, specifically the integral of (sin(θ) - cos(θ)) / (sin(θ) + cos(θ)) dθ. The original poster attempts to show that this integral equals -(1/2)ln(2sin(2θ) + 2) + C.

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  • Participants explore substitution methods, specifically letting u = sin(θ) + cos(θ), and discuss the implications of manipulating logarithmic expressions. Questions arise regarding the equivalence of constants in the context of integration.

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The discussion has progressed with participants offering guidance on manipulating logarithmic forms and constants. There is a recognition of potential multiplicative constants affecting the final expression, and participants are actively exploring how to reconcile their results with the expected outcome.

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Participants note the presence of constants in logarithmic expressions and the potential for different constants of integration to yield equivalent results. The conversation reflects an ongoing examination of assumptions related to the manipulation of integrals and logarithmic identities.

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Ok here it is,

Show that the integral of

sin(θ)-cos(θ)dθ
sin(θ)+cos(θ)

= -(1/2)ln(2sin(2θ)+2)+C

Now what I did was let u=sin(θ)+cos(θ) so that du=cos(θ)-sin(θ)dθ or that du=-(sin(θ)-cos(θ))dθ

Now I got the integral of

(sin(θ)-cos(θ))*du
u*-(sin(θ)-cos(θ))

And then both of the sin(θ)-cos(θ) cancels out and I was left with the integral of

-du
u

which is -ln|u|+C , plugging back what u was into that I got

-ln|sin(θ)+cos(θ)|+C
which I cannot figure out to be equal to what he said it should be.

The only thing I can think of is the C's being different and that causing them to be equal. Any ideas?
 
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Notice that their solution has a (1/2) out front. Try multiplying your solution by 2/2. (since 2/2 = 1, this doesn't change the solution)

Now, leave the (1/2) outside the logarithm, but use the power rule (n log a = log (a^n)) to pull the 2 inside the logarithm, and see if you can manipulate the result to get their answer. You'll probably be off by a multiplicative constant in the logarithm, but then you can use the fact that log ab = log a + log b to pull it out and absorb it into C.
 
Of course mutliply by one. I always forget to multiply by 1, but I never forget to add 0. Thanks

Edit...

Ok I now got to this answer

-(1/2)ln(sin(2θ)+1)+C

Now can I add -(1/2)ln(2)? And then pull the 2 inside the original log and make a new constant C? to get the answer I wanted of -(1/2)ln(2sin(2θ)+2)+C?
 
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Bingo!
 

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