Matrix of a Parabola? (It's my first day)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding a problem related to augmented matrices and their application in determining the coefficients of a parabola that passes through given points. Participants are exploring the concepts of linear algebra as they relate to a specific homework question involving equations of a parabola.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the problem and attempts to formulate the equations corresponding to the augmented matrix.
  • Another participant confirms that the equations written are correct and relate to the points being on the parabola.
  • A participant seeks clarification on what the problem is asking, particularly regarding the second phrase of the question.
  • Another participant reiterates the need to show that the coefficients (a, b, c) satisfy each equation in the system, suggesting substitution as a method to demonstrate this.
  • There is mention of a related problem that might help clarify the original question, indicating that understanding the relationship between points and the parabola could simplify the task.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correctness of the equations derived from the augmented matrix, but there remains uncertainty about how to proceed with the problem and what specific aspects need to be shown. The discussion reflects multiple viewpoints on how to interpret the question and the steps required to solve it.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the requirements of the problem, indicating potential gaps in foundational knowledge of linear algebra concepts. There is also a lack of consensus on the best approach to take in solving the problem.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students new to linear algebra, particularly those grappling with concepts related to augmented matrices and their application in polynomial equations.

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Hi guys, I started linear algebra just yesturday. I've read the first section of the first chapter and now I'm trying to do some problems from this section and I'm stuck on #7. I scanned the page from my math book (here's a link: http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8476/lach11n72fb.jpg ). After reading this section of my book, I'm pretty sure I understand what an "augmented matrix" is. I understand what "consistent" means, and also understand the basic row operations.

In an attempt to figure out what the question is asking, I wrote down their augmented matrix in equation form, and I wrote the following.

y1 = ax1^2 + bx1 + c
y2 = ax2^2 + bx2 + c
y3 = ax3^2 + bx3 + c

Even if this isn't in the right direction to solving the problem, did I do this correctly?

I'm confused as to what exactly the question is asking, and what to "show". I've always been bad at the questions that ask to "show" something is true or false. Please help!
 
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Looks like you almost have it. Yes, those equations are the ones corresponding to the given augmented matrix. Now, do you see that those are precisely the equations stating that (x1,y1), (x2, y2), (x3,y3) are on the parabola y= ax2+ bx+ c?
 
HallsofIvy, I do see and understand that, although I'm having trouble understanding why or how that answers the question in the second phrase. Could you explain to me what the second phrase is asking me to do? Sorry for all the questions. This whole thing is totally new to me.
 
Bump.

I've run into the same problem from the same book. I understand that the stated equations are for each x,y point, however I'm not sure how to proceed!
 
What "second question in the secnd phrase" are you talking about?
 
when the question asks to show that (a,b,c) satisfies the system of equations, it's asking you to show that it satisfies _each_ of the equations in your system of equations. You have three equations. Each of the equations has 3 unkowns (x,y,z). One way to proceed is to show that if you substitute (a,b,c) for (x,y,z) in any of the equations, then you have a solution to that equation. To do this you must use the fact that the points (x1,y1),(x2,y2), and (x3,y3) each lie on the parabola. Also, you must use the fact that the equation of the parabola is given in the statement of the problem. I hope I haven't just confused you more. In any case, soon you will be able to answer a similar problem (if you can't already): Given three distinct points in the x-y plane, find the equation of a parabola that passes through each of them simultaneously. Perhaps when you (or if you could go ahead and) solve this related problem, #7 may seem much more simple.
 

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