How High and How Long Does a Foul Ball Travel When Hit Straight Up at 22 m/s?

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a foul ball hit straight up with an initial speed of 22 m/s. Participants are tasked with determining the maximum height the ball reaches and the total time it remains in the air, while considering the effects of gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using kinematic equations to find the maximum height and time of flight. There is mention of the initial velocity, acceleration due to gravity, and the conditions at the highest point of the ball's trajectory. Some participants express confusion regarding the velocity at the highest point and the total time in the air.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the calculations. A few have attempted to clarify the relationship between velocity and time, particularly at the highest point, while others are still seeking clarity on the second part of the question regarding the total time the ball is in the air.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in the value of gravitational acceleration, with some suggesting 9.8 m/s² instead of 9.1 m/s². There is also a lack of information regarding the initial height of the ball, which may affect the calculations.

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A foul ball is hit straight up into the air with a speed of about 22 m/s.
(a) How high does it go?
? m
(b) How long is it in the air?
? s

How do I solve this
 
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You use basic formulas that you surely already know. The acceleration due to gravity (near the surface of the earth) is -9.1 m/s2.

v(t)= v0- 9.1 t
where v(t) is the velocity of the ball at time t seconds after the ball was hit staight up and v0 is the initial velocity (here 22 m/s).

h(t)= h0+ v0t- 4.95 t2
where h(t) is height of the ball at time t seconds after the ball is hit and h0 is the initial height of the ball. Here you might take it to be 0 although, really, it should be about the shoulder height of the batter- which is not given.

As long as the velocity is positive, the ball is still going up- not yet at its highest point.
When the velocity is negative, the ball is coming back down- already past its highest point.
What do you think the velocity is at the highest point?
Put that into the equation and solve for t to find when the ball is at its highest point. Now use that time in the height equation to find that height.

"How long is it in the air?"

It's in the air until it gets back to the ground! What is its height when it hits the ground? If you put that into the height equation and solve for t what do you get?
 
Just a small note, HallsofIvy probably meant g = 9.8 m/s² (the 1 probably came from 9.81).
 
I got the first part. But I am still confused on the second part. I can't find the velocity of the ball at its hightest point.
 
Nevermind the answer is 4.5 seconds right?
 
Lay out the BIG FOUR (kinematics equations). There are only 5 variables: acceleration, time, initial velocity, final velocity, and distance. You will have to be given atleast 3 of these 5 variables. Pick out the equation in which there is only 1 unknown and solve.

How high does it go?
Vinitial = 22m/s, a= gravity = -9.8m/s/s, Vfinal = 0 m/s (at its peak)
d = ?

How long does it take to get to the ground? Using the conservation of energy the velocity when it reaches the ground again must be equal to when it went up, Vfinal = -22m/s, a = -9.8m/s/s, Vinitial=22m/s, t=?
 
thschica said:
Nevermind the answer is 4.5 seconds right?
The answer to what question? :smile:

As far as "I can't find the velocity of the ball at its hightest point." I was trying to give you that: as long as the velocity is positive, the ball is still going up and so is not at its highest point! If the velocity is negative, the ball is now going down and so is past its highest point! The velocity at the highest point can't be positive or negative so it must be 0.

Yes, I meant to write that g= -9.81. Don't know where the "8" got to!

If v(t)= 22- 9.81t= 0, then 9.81t= 22 so t= 22/9.81= 2.24 s when the ball is at its highest point.
Now use h(t)= 22t- 4.91t2 to find the actual height at that time.

Of course the ball ends its flight when h(t)= 0 again. You can solve
22t- 4.91t2= 0 to find the time that happens.
22t- 4.91t2= t(22- 4.91t)= 0 so t= 0 or t= 22/4.91= 4.48 seconds (4.5 to two sig. figures). Of course, because of the symmetry, since we already knew that the ball took 2.24 s to reach its highest point, we could have argued that it will take the same time coming back down: total flight 2.24+ 2.24= 4.48 s.
 

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