How Can Art Capture the Essence of Nix Periphera?

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The discussion revolves around creative ideas for art and structures that embody the theme "NIX PERIPHERA," which translates to "No Boundaries." Participants explore various artistic interpretations and conceptual representations, including both visual art and mathematical ideas.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests an extreme closeup of Charles Manson's face as a vivid illustration of "No Boundaries."
  • Another participant proposes the Tower of Babel as a potential representation of the theme.
  • Several participants engage in a mathematical discussion about the notation of infinity, debating the implications of using open versus closed brackets in set notation.
  • There is a playful exchange regarding the mathematical representation of sets, with some participants questioning the validity of including infinity as an element.
  • One participant expresses a desire for more innovative ideas related to the theme.
  • Another suggests simply using the symbol for infinity (\infty) or an overline version of it as a representation.

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The discussion features multiple competing views and interpretations regarding the theme "NIX PERIPHERA." There is no consensus on a singular artistic approach or representation, and participants express differing opinions on mathematical notation and its implications.

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Participants exhibit uncertainty regarding the definitions and implications of mathematical concepts, particularly concerning infinity and set notation. The discussion reflects a blend of artistic and mathematical reasoning without resolution on the correctness of the claims made.

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Individuals interested in art, creative expression, or mathematical concepts may find the discussion engaging and thought-provoking.

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All innovators --- HELP!

I have to think of some drawing/painting resembling the TOPIC "NIX PERIPHERA" which means "No Boundaries"

"NIX PERIPHERA" is the theme for our annual cultural fest in my tech-skool , and I have to think of some innovatory ideas regarding the paintings that we can make resembling the topic , also please tell ideas about structures that we can make which resemble the given topic in a way (like a 6" tall structure of Bird with open wings---> resembling no boundaries...blah blah) ...

ANything scientific/cool/weird , anything that you can think of ...anythinggg..

BJ
 
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An extreme closeup of Charles Manson's face would vividly illustrate the concept of "No Boundaries," I think.
 
zoobyshoe said:
An extreme closeup of Charles Manson's face would vividly illustrate the concept of "No Boundaries," I think.

That's brilliant, I never would have thought of that.
 
How about something to do with the tower of babel?
 
[tex](-\infty,\infty)[/tex]
 
Math Is Hard said:
[tex](-\infty,\infty)[/tex]
pfff!


This is more like it [tex][-\infty, \infty ][/tex] :smile:
 
But that makes no sense. :-p Besides, it adds a boundary, which isn't what we want.
 
True, they both have boundaries, but at least mine includes infinity :-p
 
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mattmns said:
True, they both have boundaries, but at least mine includes infinity :-p

Really? So what then is [tex][-\infty, \infty ] - (-\infty,\infty)[/tex] = ?
 
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I am not sure about the definition of infinity, but I would guess that the subtraction would be [tex]\{-\infty, \infty\}[/tex]
 
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mattmns said:
I am not sure about the definition of infinity, but I would guess that the subtraction would be [tex]\{-\infty, \infty\}[/tex]

We are talking about two distinct sets... one set is a subset of the other set. If you take away all the elements of the subset what are we left with?

In other words...using brackets for your set does not seem to make any sense. At least not up to any of the math classes I have taken. :smile:
 
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I am no math expert, but this is what I was thinking, I may have misunderstood you.

If we have a set that contains all the elements up to infinity and down to negative infinity, we have [tex]\{ x | -\infty < x < \infty \}[/tex] which is denoted by [tex]( -\infty, \infty )[/tex]

If we then look at the set including infinty and negative infinity we have [tex]\{ x | -\infty \leq x \leq \infty \}[/tex] which is denoted by [tex][ -\infty, \infty ][/tex]

If we then subtract the latter set by the former (what I am guessing you meant by the - sign, set difference of the two sets), we will get a set with 2 elements: [tex]-\infty, \infty[/tex]
Which I wrote as the set: [tex]\{ -\infty, \infty \}[/tex]

Keep in mind I am no math expert, so I could easily be wrong.
 
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mattmns said:
I am no math expert, but this is what I was thinking, I may have misunderstood you.

If we have a set that contains all the elements up to infinity and down to negative infinity, we have [tex]\{ x | -\infty < x < \infty \}[/tex] which is denoted by [tex]( -\infty, \infty )[/tex]

If we then look at the set including infinty and negative infinity we have [tex]\{ x | -\infty \leq x \leq \infty \}[/tex] which is denoted by [tex][ -\infty, \infty ][/tex]

If we then subtract the latter set by the former (what I am guessing you meant by the - sign, set difference of the two sets), we will get a set with 2 elements: [tex]-\infty, \infty[/tex]

Keep in mind I am no math expert, so I could easily be wrong.


Well that's just it...infinity is not an element of the set but a symbol that means it just goes on and on...

For example [tex](- \infty,\infty)[/tex] could be written as the real number line. Where on that number line is infinity? It is nowhere on the line that I can think of...

So how could it be included in the set? Which makes writing infinity with the closed bracket kind of non-sense.

Do you see what I mean? :smile:
 
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Ohh, you did not like my use of square brackets. Pff, math standards :smile: I was using it more of as a joke :smile:
 
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mattmns said:
Ohh, you did not like my use of square brackets. Pff, math standards :smile: I was using it more of as a joke :smile:

I don't know if they're standards so much...more like conventions so people understand what is meant by symbols... :wink:
 
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ok I want more ideas.
 
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Dr.Brain said:
ok I want more ideas.

Try concentrating harder then... :smile:
 
  • #18
how about just plain [tex]\infty[/tex]?

or [tex]\overline{\infty}[/tex]
 

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