Charge problem, used a quadtratic equation, can you see if i did it right?

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The problem involves determining the position of a third particle with an unknown charge such that the net electrostatic force on it from two other charged particles is zero. The context is electrostatics, specifically dealing with forces between charged particles and equilibrium conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the use of a quadratic equation to find the position of the third particle, with some questioning the necessity of this approach. Others suggest alternative methods and express confusion regarding the interpretation of results, particularly concerning the sign of the coordinates.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's methods and interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the coordinate system and the implications of the charge placements, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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There are indications of differing opinions on the methods used to solve the problem, as well as confusion about the coordinate system and the expected format of the answer. The original poster's professor has influenced the approach taken, leading to some uncertainty in the discussion.

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Hello everyone. I need to see if I did this right. the problem is this:
Particle 1 of charge 1.0E-6 C and particle 2 of charge -2.0E-6 C are held at separation L = 13.0cm on an x axis. If particle 3 of unkonwn charge q3 is to be located such that the net electrostatifc force on it from particles 1 and 2 is zero what must be the coordinates of particle 3?

Here is my drawing and work:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2886/quad5nx.jpg

So would the answer be X = 31.385 cm Y = 0 cm?


Also another quick question...
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/510/22115ph.gif shows four situations in which charged particles are fixed in place on an axis.


In which situations is there a point to the left of the particles where an electron will be in equilibrium? (Select all that apply.)
situation b and a were the only ones that made senes to me. Does that seem right?

Thanks!
 
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with the smaller charge q at x=0, and the -2q at x=13m,
the E-field contributions cancel farther from the -2q.
How much farther? sqrt(2) farther than from the small q.
(so ratio 2q/(sqrt(2)*d)^2 = 1)
(d+130mm) = 1.414 (d) , so .414d = 130mm
no quadratic needed
 
My professor told me to use the quadratic, so my solution is incorrect? If i convert your 130mm to cm's it doesn't come even close to my answer. If you would use my method, what did i screw up? thanks for the reply
 
mr_coffee said:
My professor told me to use the quadratic, so my solution is incorrect?
Your solution is correct.
 
Thanks Doc, quick question, Is it suppose to be negative answer or positive answer? because I placed the charge on the negative x-axis. and it is wanting the Y coordinates and x coordinates. Y = 0 cm, but would X = -31 or X = 31?
 
I believe you are perfectly correct with your answer however your method was over-laborious. If you had canceled the 10^6 and expressed d in terms of a separation you could get the quadratic terms out much more quickly

the roots i got in the form 13(1 + sqrt(2)) and 13(1 - sqrt(2)) confirm what you got.

note however that it the co-ordinate system you sketch the charge is at (-31.385,0)
 
mr_coffee said:
Thanks Doc, quick question, Is it suppose to be negative answer or positive answer? because I placed the charge on the negative x-axis. and it is wanting the Y coordinates and x coordinates. Y = 0 cm, but would X = -31 or X = 31?
As gnpatterson already explained, if you put the positive charge at X = 0 and the negative charge at X = 13 cm, then the coordinates of your answer will be X = -31 cm.

In your equation, d stands for the distance from the charge at X = 0. Once you found the solution of the equation, it is up to you to translate the answer into the format required: a coordinate along the x-axis.
 
thanks guys!
 

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