How Do You Solve the Differential Equation for Particle Motion with F=kvx?

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation related to particle motion, specifically given the force equation F=kvx, where k is a positive constant. The problem involves finding the position function x(t) under the condition that the particle starts at the origin with an initial speed Vo at time t=0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss rewriting the force equation and express confusion about how to proceed with the variables involved. There are questions about the nature of v and whether separation of variables is applicable. Some participants explore the implications of the derived equations and question the meaning of specific solutions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the differential equation and exploring various approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the chain rule to manipulate the equation, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to solve the problem.

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Participants express uncertainty due to a lack of recent experience with differential equations, indicating that the problem feels challenging. There is mention of imposed homework rules, as one participant reflects on the difficulty of the task compared to their teacher's perspective.

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I'm given F=kvx. I need to find x(t), k is a positive constant, and the particle passes thru the origin with speed Vo at time t=0.

I start by rewriting the formula as such:

dv/dt=k*dx/dt*x

I am confused now though because I now have dv,dt, and dx. I assume I need to get everything in terms of dx and dt. Can I use separation of variables or do I need another technique?
 
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Is v the speed?

If so, you got F=kvx, which can be rewriten as

[tex]F = k\frac{dx}{dt}x[/tex]

and F = ma, which can be rewritten as

[tex]F = m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}[/tex]

Combining the two leads to

[tex]k\frac{dx}{dt}x = m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}[/tex]
 
Now is this where you have trouble? [itex]kx=mx^{2}[/itex] has solutions x=0 and x=k/m. What does this tell you about the differential equation?
 
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Ok, after some tinkering I was able to get:
[tex]k\frac{dx}{dt}x = m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}[/tex]
Since it doesn't appear to be able to be put into a 1st order equation I assume I am out of luck with separation, or am I?

Sorry, but I'm not sure what x=0, x=k/m tells me about the equation. Are they linear dependent? The lighter the object the further it travels?

It's been over 2 years since diff eq and my head is a mess right now. I feel helpless. My teacher keeps saying this is easy, but when you've been away from it for a while, it is very hard. It's not like riding a bike that's for sure.
 
Try using the fact (chain rule) that
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt}= \frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}= v\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex]
to eliminate t from the equation.

[tex]m\frac{dv}{dt}= mv\frac{dv}{dx}= F= kxv[/tex]
 

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