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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the continuity of the function f(x) = |x|, particularly at the point x = 0. Participants explore the definitions and conditions for continuity, as well as the implications of differentiability.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether f(x) = |x| is continuous everywhere, citing conflicting opinions from different instructors.
  • Another participant asserts that |x| is continuous everywhere, including at x = 0, and provides a piecewise definition to support this claim.
  • A third participant presents a formal argument using the epsilon-delta definition of continuity to demonstrate that f(x) is continuous at x = 0.
  • Further contributions clarify that continuity at a point requires the limits from both sides to exist and equal the function's value at that point.
  • Some participants suggest that confusion may arise from the distinction between continuity and differentiability, noting that while f(x) is continuous at x = 0, it is not differentiable there.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their memory of previous teachings, acknowledging potential misunderstanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that f(x) = |x| is continuous at x = 0, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of differentiability at that point. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the initial claim about continuity made by the former teacher.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the need for limits to exist and be equal to the function's value for continuity, but the discussion does not fully resolve the implications of differentiability versus continuity.

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Question:
Is [tex]f(x)=\mid{x}\mid[/tex] continuous?

I have been looking online and got a few different answers. My calc B.C. teacher last year claimed that [tex]f(x)=\mid{x}\mid[/tex] is continuous everywhere except at x=0. My current 115 teacher maintains that anyone under that impression deserves to be boiled in their own pudding. It seems to me that it would make sense that it is continuous, but that is from a conceptual view rather than mathmatical definition.

If anyone has any proof please tell me and provide link to site confirming it. Especially if it is not continuous at 0.
 
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|x| is continuous everywhere (including 0)
and has a continuous derivatives of all orders everywhere except 0.
The proof is obvious since
|x|=-x x<0
|x|=x x>0
x and -x clearly have continuous derivatives of all orders
|0+|=|0-|=|0|=0 so we have |x| is continuous everywhere
f'(x)=-1 x<0
f'(x)=1 x>0
so f'(x) does not exist at 0 so is not continuous
likewise higher derivatives
 
Alright, let [itex]f(x)=\lvert x\rvert[/itex]. So, given any [itex]\varepsilon>0[/itex] take [itex]\delta=\varepsilon[/itex]. Then if [itex]\lvert x-0\vert<\delta[/itex] then [itex]\lvert f(x)-f(0)\rvert=\lvert f(x)\rvert<\varepsilon[/itex] and so [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}f(x)=0=f(0)[/itex] and therefore f(x) is continuous at x=0.
 
Is it true that a function f(x) is continuous at x=a if:

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow a+} f(x) = \lim_{x \rightarrow a-} f(x)[/tex]?

Clearly, this holds for f(x) = |x| at x=0.
 
Is it true that a function f(x) is continuous at x=a if:

The other condition is obvious but necessary, we require the limit from both sides to exist and be equal to the value of the function at that point.
 
Your former teacher may have been confused with differentiability, meaning he probably had a bad day.
Or he's just plain dumb, I dunno.
 
Or maybe you misunderstood! f(x)= |x| is continuous at x= 0 but not differentiable there.
 
Thanks, it probably is my memory since it was from last year...
 

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