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zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 04:09 AM
1.) What's your favorite animal? Give two adjectives that describe that animal.

2.) You walk into a room that is completely white: floors, walls, ceiling. Give two words that describe how this white room makes you feel.

3.) What's your favorite body of water? Give two adjectives that describe it.

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Here's mine:

1.) Cats. Warm, friendly.

2.) Peaceful, sedate.

3.) Pacific Ocean. Hot, powerful.

honestrosewater
Sep15-05, 05:16 AM
1) Leopard. Solitary, elusive.
2) Free (in a purified and unencumbered sense), inspired
3) Mediterranean. Historic, inconstant.

matthyaouw
Sep15-05, 06:20 AM
1- Guinea pig. Hyperactive, affectionate.
2- Uneasy.
3- Probably one of the Scottish lochs, but I don't know which. Perhaps Maree (http://www.theoldmillhighlandlodge.co.uk/slioch.jpg). Tranquil, Peaceful.

hypatia
Sep15-05, 10:10 AM
Dogs- playful, loving
White room-clean-cold
Lake Superior-bold-mysterious

Smurf
Sep15-05, 10:19 AM
oh god, I remember this stupid thing from 7th grade.

hypnagogue
Sep15-05, 10:20 AM
1) Never gave much thought to what my favorite animal is, but I guess I'll say elephants. Wise, strange.
2) Bare, disinterested.
3) Pacific ocean. Eternal, majestic.

El Hombre Invisible
Sep15-05, 10:22 AM
1.) What's your favorite animal? Give two adjectives that describe that animal.

The zooby. Brush shelter-trained. Good with humans.


2.) You walk into a room that is completely white: floors, walls, ceiling. Give two words that describe how this white room makes you feel.

Slightly squinty.


3.) What's your favorite body of water? Give two adjectives that describe it.

Pacific Ocean. Big. Wobbly.

hypnagogue
Sep15-05, 10:22 AM
oh god, I remember this stupid thing from 7th grade.

I'm curious/suspicious about what the purpose of this is supposed to be, but in any case if you know it you should keep it under wraps for a little longer so people can give unbiased answers.

TheStatutoryApe
Sep15-05, 07:35 PM
I've done this before with one of the questions being slightly differant.

1) Cats- independant, affectionate

2) Displaced, unnatural

This third question was differant in the one I did. I had it as what is your favorite type of water. I think I'll answer it this way since I don't really have a favourite body of water.
3) Fog- Cool(temprature wise), mysterious

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 07:46 PM
This third question was differant in the one I did.
Well, since you know what it's about, I don't think you'll enjoy the "OH! Hmmmm...!" factor, then.

hypnagogue
Sep15-05, 08:14 PM
I looked it up. No wonder zooby thinks of the pacific ocean as hot!

TheStatutoryApe
Sep15-05, 08:16 PM
Well, since you know what it's about, I don't think you'll enjoy the "OH! Hmmmm...!" factor, then.
True but I only vaguely remember what they were supposed to mean.

hypnagogue
Sep15-05, 08:18 PM
By the way, any ideas where this comes from/how it got started/who thought of it? It might be interesting or amusing as a kind of game to play, but all the same I'm about as certain as I can be that it's bunk.

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 08:32 PM
By the way, any ideas where this comes from/how it got started/who thought of it? It might be interesting or amusing as a kind of game to play, but all the same I'm about as certain as I can be that it's bunk.
No, I don't know the origin of it, but I disagree it's pure bunk. I think it would give a psychologist a place to start, and these three questions are probably culled from a much longer questionaire. TSA said he heard a different version of the water question, so it could be that in being passed around as a parlor game it has gotten modified too much from the original wording. The animal-identification question makes alot of sense to me.

Evo
Sep15-05, 08:36 PM
Cats - scratchy, demanding
too bright and otherwordly
caribbean - colorful, clear

hypnagogue
Sep15-05, 08:41 PM
It might have some value as a sort of free association kind of thing, but I very much doubt it can be interpreted in the specific ways I've read. In fact, in some ways it seems to me very much like a kind of Rorschach ink blot test, and the convential interpretations and ultimate utility of such tests have come under considerable scrutiny and criticism (see e.g. here (http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume3/j3_4_5.htm)).

pattylou
Sep15-05, 08:50 PM
1.) What's your favorite animal? Give two adjectives that describe that animal.

2.) You walk into a room that is completely white: floors, walls, ceiling. Give two words that describe how this white room makes you feel.

3.) What's your favorite body of water? Give two adjectives that describe it.




1.) Horse, Strong, calm.

2.) Empty, clean.

3.) Yosemite Falls (I know, not a body of water.) Fast, powerful.

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 09:36 PM
It might have some value as a sort of free association kind of thing, but I very much doubt it can be interpreted in the specific ways I've read.
Not sure what you've read. I think the three questions more pointed than the average ink-blot or free-association test, though.

I'm not aware that anyone does ink-blots anymore. Rohrschach tests are pretty much verbal now, and they are aimed at testing for a small range of specific symptoms, particularly concrete thinking.

Moonbear
Sep15-05, 10:25 PM
1.) What's your favorite animal? Give two adjectives that describe that animal.
I don't know if I have a favorite! I like them all! Okay, I'll pick one for the game...
Chinchilla: bouncy, adorable

2.) You walk into a room that is completely white: floors, walls, ceiling. Give two words that describe how this white room makes you feel.
Cold, sterile

3.) What's your favorite body of water? Give two adjectives that describe it.
Umm...err...ah...hmm...I never thought about favorite bodies of water, ever. Okay...
Bathtub: soothing, warm. :biggrin:
Alright, alright, alright, I'll pick a different one:
Atlantic ocean; unforgiving, pounding (I really want to use more words...just two adjectives isn't enough).

Moonbear
Sep15-05, 10:29 PM
I looked it up. No wonder zooby thinks of the pacific ocean as hot!
Rut Roh! I didn't read past the first post before giving my answers...now I'm wondering what I've gotten myself into. :uhh:

motai
Sep15-05, 10:31 PM
2.) You walk into a room that is completely white: floors, walls, ceiling. Give two words that describe how this white room makes you feel.

Conveys a matrix-esque feeling. Unboundedness, peace.

I'm surprised that no one has said racist yet :uhh:. At least it is a good thing that this forum isn't too ethnocentric in nature.

3.) What's your favorite body of water? Give two adjectives that describe it.

I haven't been there before, but this picture seems to show it off pretty well... Lake Mapourika, New Zealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lake_mapourika_NZ.jpeg)

JamesU
Sep15-05, 11:02 PM
1.) What's your favorite animal? Give two adjectives that describe that animal.

2.) You walk into a room that is completely white: floors, walls, ceiling. Give two words that describe how this white room makes you feel.

3.) What's your favorite body of water? Give two adjectives that describe it.


1) The smiley. expressive. moody

2) It makes me feel like this guy-> :bugeye:

3) The pacific ocean. big. oceanic.

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 11:05 PM
Conveys a matrix-esque feeling. Unboundedness, peace.
You didn't reply to question #1.
I haven't been there before, but this picture seems to...
I don't want pictures. It's the adjectives you pick that matter.

JamesU
Sep15-05, 11:08 PM
I think zoob's doind some sort of statistic. Working For the CIAZ (Central intelligence Agency of Zoobies)

TheStatutoryApe
Sep15-05, 11:20 PM
I think zoob's doind some sort of statistic. Working For the CIAZ (Central intelligence Agency of Zoobies)
Looks like you've been found out Zoob.

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 11:32 PM
Looks like you've been found out Zoob.
Nope. It's not the CIAZ. It's the FBZ: Federal Bureau of Zoobvestigation.

JamesU
Sep15-05, 11:36 PM
I thought it was zoobbivestigation. BTW, by posting that on this site, 25,000 military, CIA, and FBI members have found the information and are planing an invasion on the FBZ

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 11:40 PM
I thought it was zoobbivestigation.
No, zoobvestigation.
BTW, by posting that on this site, 25,000 military, CIA, and FBI members have found the information and are planing an invasion on the FBZ
You have your head up your avatar.

Moonbear
Sep15-05, 11:42 PM
You have your head up your avatar.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :tongue:

motai
Sep15-05, 11:46 PM
You didn't reply to question #1.

I don't want pictures. It's the adjectives you pick that matter.

Right. My favorite animal is paired in this (simple) riddle.

Words composed ye be
-Illegal by law
-Half-spheroid blot of darkness
-Manifestations of the Metro
Though quite fine to say
'Tis sure to make any schoolgirl giggle.

Boo. I'm putting pictures anyway.:tongue2:

zoobyshoe
Sep15-05, 11:50 PM
Right. My favorite animal is paired in this (simple) riddle.
So, your favorite animal is the sphinx, and your two adjectives are enigmatic, frustrating. OK.

Smurf
Sep16-05, 12:01 AM
I looked it up. No wonder zooby thinks of the pacific ocean as hot!
Because he peed?

Smurf
Sep16-05, 12:02 AM
You have your head up your avatar.
I thought his head was his avatar?

zoobyshoe
Sep16-05, 12:06 AM
I thought his head was his avatar?
You don't know your avatar from your elbow.

Smurf
Sep16-05, 12:10 AM
You don't know your avatar from your elbow.
You're his avatar.

hypatia
Sep16-05, 12:12 AM
Well I don't have time to look it up, so would someone let me know what it all means?

zoobyshoe
Sep16-05, 12:19 AM
You're his avatar.
Don't be so hasty, smurf. Checked the mirror lately? You've been going through some peculiar changes since I put the zoobonic whammy on you.

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 12:54 AM
Well I don't have time to look it up, so would someone let me know what it all means?Yes, me too, please. :smile: I've seen these before, but I don't know what this one is supposed to mean.

zoobyshoe
Sep16-05, 01:34 AM
The first question, your favorite animal, reflects your attitude toward yourself. Not the animal itself, but the words you used to describe it.

The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.

The third question, how you describe your favorite body of water, reveals your attitude to sex.

TheStatutoryApe
Sep16-05, 01:37 AM
Interesting...

The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.
And I think that it is unnatural huh? I always knew that I was immortal.:wink:

zoobyshoe
Sep16-05, 01:59 AM
And I think that it is unnatural huh? I always knew that I was immortal.:wink:
When I was given the test years ago, I had alot of questions I wanted answered about the white room before I would give my response: does it have a window? If so, what's outside the window? Is there furniture? Carpet? And so forth. My answer depends completely on what kind of white room it might be. The guy just kept saying "Whatever comes to mind." So I enisioned a nice sunny, white room with a big window. A person, I think, could just as easily envision a cold, sterile basement cell lit by fluorescent light, and tiled from floor to ceiling in cold ceramic white industrial tile. There are white rooms, and white rooms.

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 02:19 AM
Maybe the accuracy depends on how much thought you put into the answers and knowing that it's meant to reveal something about yourself.

The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.Yeah, I was thinking of the separation of mind and body (reason and appetite, judgement and blood, god and beast), but in a kind of poetic instead of physical sense.

The animal made me think about the more observable aspects of myself, in my relationships with people, and the body of water made me think about the physical world and society. Not far off.

3) Eternal, majestic.Hmmmm...

TheStatutoryApe
Sep16-05, 02:28 AM
I think that changing from body of water to type of water kinda messed up my answer for the last one. It doesn't really make much sense that way. I don't think the meanings were the same in the first one I did. I used fog for that one too.

zoobyshoe
Sep16-05, 02:55 AM
The animal seems pretty reliable, but I would like to know how someone came to the conclusion an all white room would be analogous to people's notion of death, or a body of water to sex. I wonder if this is derived from Jungian psychology? (It's not Freudian.)

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 03:15 AM
The animal seems pretty reliable, but I would like to know how someone came to the conclusion an all white room would be analogous to people's notion of death, or a body of water to sex. I wonder if this is derived from Jungian psychology? (It's not Freudian.)I was thinking Jung too, but it was just a connection my brain spat out - don't really know anything about him.

Math Is Hard
Sep16-05, 03:34 AM
I remember a similar version of this from high school. We called it a "parlor game". It sort of goes in a story form:

1) You are walking along a path. Describe it.
(This represents your feelings about life.)
2) You come across a knife. Describe it. What do you do with it?
(This is your feelings about your father.)
3) You come across a bottle. Describe it. What do you do with it?
(This is your feelings about your mother.)
4)You come across a building. Describe it. What do you do?
(This is your feelings about death.)
5) You come across a body of water. Describe it. What do you do?
(This is your feelings about sex.)

matthyaouw
Sep16-05, 05:37 AM
Atlantic ocean; unforgiving, pounding

*giggles to self*

El Hombre Invisible
Sep16-05, 07:39 AM
*giggles to self*
Hey, I went for Pacific Ocean: big, wobbly. How do you think I feel now? Oh well. At least I'm domesticated.

matthyaouw
Sep16-05, 07:50 AM
3)Historic, inconstant.

*giggles even more*
I like this game!
(Me, grow up? never!)

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 07:58 AM
*giggles even more*
I like this game!
(Me, grow up? never!):rolleyes: You just don't know how I intended those words. :tongue2:

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 08:00 AM
But big and wobbly is pretty straightforward... or not. :surprised

hypnagogue
Sep16-05, 08:16 AM
eh, like I said, I'm very skeptical. It might make sense on some intuitive level that, say, the animal you choose is some sort of representation of yourself. But this in itself is really no guarantee that there is any real deep meaning to all of this. From the link I posted earlier about the Rorschach ink blot test:

Why then does the Rorschach continue to be used?

The answer may be found in the review of A. G. Bernstein in the seventh Mental Measurement Yearbook in 1972. He wrote (p.434): "the view that recognition, the act of construing an unfamiliar stimulus, taps central components of personality functions is one that will remain crucial in any psychology committed to the understanding of human experience." Despite his misuse of the term recognition (which means noting that a stimulus has appeared before in one's experience — the exact opposite of "construing an unfamiliar stimulus"), I agree with Bernstein. He refers to a view, a plausible assumption. If we adopt this assumption, the Rorschach should work. The overwhelming evidence that it does not work is ignored.

Now I'm not aware of any real evidence that's been collected on the questions posed in this thread, but the thrust behind them seems to be the same as the Rorschach: a plausible interpretation of the associations one makes used to infer something about one's personality or psychology. But plausibility alone means little, apparently especially so in the case of psychological probes like this, since the Rorschach test is so plausible but has not been shown to be very useful.

And really, for what it's worth, I think the Rorschach test is much more plausible than this test-- why is it at all plausible that one's attitude towards bodies of water should correlate with one's sexual attitudes? If this comes from Freudian or Jungian traditions, the same problem crops up of actually grounding the theory in experiment and fact.

It might even well be that for at least some of the questions, for some of the people who answer them, there is something going on that makes the intended inference valid, e.g. for a particular person it might be the case that that person's psychology is such that the animal adjectives he chooses really do reflect his self-attitude, for whatever reason. But even if this is the case occasionally, I highly doubt that there is some universal, intercultural (or even intracultural) mechanism of human psychology that makes these intended inferences valid across all, or even most, people.

El Hombre Invisible
Sep16-05, 08:24 AM
But big and wobbly is pretty straightforward... or not. :surprised
What, and "unforgiving, pounding" is subtle?

El Hombre Invisible
Sep16-05, 08:29 AM
eh, like I said, I'm very skeptical. It might make sense on some intuitive level that, say, the animal you choose is some sort of representation of yourself. But this in itself is really no guarantee that there is any real deep meaning to all of this. From the link I posted earlier about the Rorschach ink blot test:

Now I'm not aware of any real evidence that's been collected on the questions posed in this thread, but the thrust behind them seems to be the same as the Rorschach: a plausible interpretation of the associations one makes used to infer something about one's personality or psychology. But plausibility alone means little, apparently especially so in the case of psychological probes like this, since the Rorschach test is so plausible but has not been shown to be very useful.

And really, for what it's worth, I think the Rorschach test is much more plausible than this test-- why is it at all plausible that one's attitude towards bodies of water should correlate with one's sexual attitudes? If this comes from Freudian or Jungian traditions, the same problem crops up of actually grounding the theory in experiment and fact.

It might even well be that for at least some of the questions, for some of the people who answer them, there is something going on that makes the intended inference valid, e.g. for a particular person it might be the case that that person's psychology is such that the animal adjectives he chooses really do reflect his self-attitude, for whatever reason. But even if this is the case occasionally, I highly doubt that there is some universal, intercultural (or even intracultural) mechanism of human psychology that makes these intended inferences valid across all, or even most, people.
I don't think you're taking this seriously enough. There's a time and place for fun and games, you know... [the psychology forum, for instance]

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 08:29 AM
:rofl: Poor hypnagogue is trying to be serious here. Shape up, floppy. :grumpy:

Er, floppy, wobbly, whatever...

hypnagogue
Sep16-05, 08:31 AM
Sure, I said as much previously, that this could be nice for fun and games. But it seems as if zooby thinks there might be something to it (?).

hypnagogue
Sep16-05, 08:33 AM
So apparently I see myself as wise and strange, and I like my sex eternal and majestic (maybe I should look into that tantric stuff), but when it comes to death I'm kind of indifferent. "What's that you say doc? I have two weeks to live? eh, whatever." :tongue2:

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 08:35 AM
Oh, that was directed at droopy. I wasn't making fun of you, hypnagogue. :biggrin:

hypnagogue
Sep16-05, 08:36 AM
3.) Yosemite Falls (I know, not a body of water.) Fast, powerful.

*chortle* *snicker* :tongue:

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 08:38 AM
So apparently I see myself as wise and strange, and I like my sex eternal and majestic (maybe I should look into that tantric stuff), but when it comes to death I'm kind of indifferent. "What's that you say doc? I have two weeks to live? eh, whatever." :tongue2:Strange indeed. Since when are elephants wise? I thought owls were the wise ones.

honestrosewater
Sep16-05, 08:38 AM
*chortle* *snicker* :tongue:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: *chortle* ??What??

Oh, nevermind. *guffaw*

El Hombre Invisible
Sep16-05, 08:39 AM
Originally Posted by pattylou
3.) Yosemite Falls (I know, not a body of water.) Fast, powerful.
*chortle* *snicker* :tongue:
She's a busy gir- I mean, woman. What can one say?

hypnagogue
Sep16-05, 08:42 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: *chortle* ??What??

:frown: What's wrong with a little chortle?? *nervous titter*

Moonbear
Sep16-05, 08:57 AM
:rofl: :rofl: Oooh...this is very interesting, verry verrrry interesting. :biggrin:

The first question, your favorite animal, reflects your attitude toward yourself. Not the animal itself, but the words you used to describe it.


Chinchilla: bouncy, adorable

The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.

Cold, sterile

The third question, how you describe your favorite body of water, reveals your attitude to sex.

Umm...err...ah...hmm...I never thought about favorite bodies of water, ever. Okay...
Bathtub: soothing, warm.
Alright, alright, alright, I'll pick a different one:
Atlantic ocean; unforgiving, pounding (I really want to use more words...just two adjectives isn't enough).


:rofl: :rofl: Works for me! :biggrin:

wolram
Sep16-05, 10:12 AM
1 Meerkat. Alert nimble

2 Bishops bowls lake. deep cold

3 Frigid bleak

zoobyshoe
Sep16-05, 12:26 PM
I remember a similar version of this from high school. We called it a "parlor game". It sort of goes in a story form:
This one is more comprehensive, but it seems more Freudian because of the "story" or "scenario" aspect: more like a dream sequence. The fact you aren't limited to two adjectives per description should make it a better formed analysis.