High-Altitude Research Balloon Design: Questions Answered

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The discussion focuses on the design and calculations involved in creating a high-altitude research balloon, specifically addressing the volume calculation of a zero-pressure balloon and the lifting gas requirements. To determine the volume of gas needed at altitude, one must consider the mass of the balloon and the density of air at that altitude. The buoyant force is calculated using the formula (rho_displaced)(V_displaced)g, and as altitude increases, the volume of the gas expands, affecting lifting effectiveness. Additionally, compensating for the diurnal cycle is crucial for maintaining a specific altitude.

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  • Understanding of buoyancy principles and the buoyant force calculation.
  • Knowledge of gas laws, particularly how gas volume changes with pressure.
  • Familiarity with atmospheric pressure variations at different altitudes.
  • Basic principles of thermal dynamics related to gas heating and stability.
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  • Research the ideal gas law and its application in high-altitude balloon design.
  • Learn about the effects of temperature on gas volume and how to calculate thermal stability.
  • Investigate methods for compensating for atmospheric pressure changes during ascent.
  • Explore advanced balloon design techniques for optimizing payload stability at altitude.
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Aerospace engineers, researchers in atmospheric sciences, and hobbyists involved in high-altitude balloon projects will benefit from this discussion.

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For a lab I am working on, we are designing a high-altitude research balloon.

I have some questions though.

1. How do I calculate the volume of a zero-pressure balloon? By taking my mass of the body over the density of the air at altitude, does this give me the volume of gas needed at that altitude? But the zero-pressure has a larger envelope that isn't filled so that the gas expands.

2. From question 1, how would I figure out how much lifting gas i needed at the ground? Is there a formula I can use?

3. How do I compensate for the diurnal cycle to maintain a specific altitude?

Thanks for the help!
 
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surely you mean "zero gauge pressure" ...
This is P_atm = 10^5 N/m^2 at ground!
buoyant Force is (rho_displaced)(V_displaced)g
As P decreases, V of the gas increases
. . . but not for your payload!
Unless you heat it, lifting effectiveness
will decrease consistently as it rises.

I have only half-baked ideas for T stability!
Good Luck!
 

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