Is There a Difference Between Sin and Cos in Traveling Wave Equations?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between sine and cosine functions in the context of traveling wave equations, specifically examining the formulas y(x,t) = Asin(kx-wt) and y(x,t) = Acos(kx-wt). Participants explore whether these forms represent the same wave and how they relate to wave direction.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of using sine versus cosine in wave equations, noting that the difference may relate to a phase offset. Questions arise about the direction of wave travel based on the signs in the equations and the relationship between different wave expressions at time = 0.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into wave behavior and confirming each other's understanding of wave direction. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between sine and cosine functions, but no consensus has been reached on the implications for the specific wave expressions presented.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework question that requires identifying a wave traveling in the opposite direction while maintaining the same amplitude and displacement at time = 0. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the wave equations and their characteristics.

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For the traveling wave described by the formula

y(x,t) = Asin(kx-wt)


Then the wave is traveling in the +x direction. True or false?

In the physics textbook I have, it describes a traveling wave by y(x,t) = Acos(kx-wt), using COS instead of SIN. Is there a difference between these 2 formulas? If there is no difference then shouldn't the statement above be true?

Also

Would the wave Asin(kx+wt) travel in the opposite direction of Asin(kx-wt)?


Thank you for your help.
 
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yes, whether you use sin or cos
is just a "phase offset" of 90 degrees,
essentially whether you want to watch
for cos: the peak of the wave
for sin: its upward-sweeping edge.

(kx-wt) contrast with (kx+wt)
for time just bigger than zero, where
is the argument still zero?
(x positive) contrast (x negative)
so the part of the wave you watch goes
(positive-x) contrast (neg-x) direction.
 
Thank you for your reply.

I would like to make sure if I have understood what you said.

So (kx-wt) moves in the + x direction and
(kx+wt) moves in the - x direction

The question I have says

Which of the expressions given is a mathematical expression for a wave of the same amplitude that is traveling in the opposite direction? At time = 0
this new wave should have the same displacement as y(x,t) = Asin(kx-wt)

1 - Acos(kx-wt)
2 - Acos(kx+wt)
3 - Asin(kx-wt)
4 - Asin(kx+wt)

The correct choice would be 4 - Asin(kx+wt) right? Since it is asking for same displacement and amplitude at time = 0; therefore cannot be choice 2 - Acos(kx+wt).

Thank you for your help.
 
right - so if these two waves are on the same medium,
at t = 0 their displacements add everywhere,
with (4)+y(x,0) adding to 2Asin(kx)cos(wt) ...

answer (2)+y(x,0) adds to 2Asin(kx)cos(wt-45)
that is, their peaks won't line up, to add together,
until a little bit later time ... wt=45 degrees later.
 

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