Constant acceleration of velocity

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The problem involves a stone falling past a window, with specific parameters such as time and distance provided, but the acceleration due to gravity is not explicitly stated. Participants are exploring the relationship between time, distance, and acceleration in the context of kinematics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to find the initial height from which the stone falls, questioning how to incorporate time and acceleration into their calculations. Some suggest using equations of motion and considering the relationship between the time taken to fall past the window and the total time of fall.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various approaches and suggestions for tackling the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of equations of motion, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution yet.

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There is confusion regarding the use of time in the equations, as participants note that the time taken to fall past the window differs from the total time of fall. Additionally, the acceleration due to gravity is assumed to be -9.8 m/s², but this is not confirmed within the discussion.

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A falling stone takes 0.28s to travel past a window 2.2m tall. From what height above the top of the window did the stone fall?

So we have time and dinstance, but not the acceleration, which confuses me terribly. Do I need to find velocity? Or do I need to look for the acceleration? SO confused. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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It always helps to draw a picture and free body diagram, then write the equation of motion, and solve for what you want. In this case, you have a rock of mass m, acted upon by gravity g, falling from rest, starting from a height x above the window. What you are given is the time it takes to cover a certain distance during it's fall to the ground. Hope this helps get you thinking in the right direction.
 
I appreciate your advice, but I am still confused. I am using the equation for motion, yes. But it asks for time, and the time from the moment of fall is not the same as the time it took the rock to fall along the window, which means that t is the variable that cannot be used, but is needed for the equation to find the distance covered. And, yes, drawing a diagram is the first thing I do... :)
 
Let me try this way. You have an equation of motion that relates distance fallen (from an unknown point above the window) as a function of time. Seems to me a fruitful approach is to express that equation of motion for [itex]x_1, t_1[/itex] and [itex]x_2, t_2[/itex], where [itex]x_1[/itex] represents the top of the window and [itex]x_2[/itex] represents the bottom of the window. Subtracting the 2 equations gives you [itex]x_1 - x_2[/itex], which you know.
 
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Ok, what if we don't even use time, except to find the velocity? Having that information, we can find the position, assuming that the acceleration is -9.8m/s^2?
 
Had to do a little head scratching. I believe the following will work:

Using the equation of motion of the rock you should be able to get an equation for [itex]x_1-x_2[/itex] in terms of [itex]g[/itex], [itex]t_1^2[/itex] and [itex]t_2^2[/itex]. You know [itex]x_1-x_2[/itex], and [itex]g[/itex], but not [itex]t_1[/itex] or [itex]t_2[/itex]. But, you do know [itex]t1-t2[/itex]. Thus, you have two equations in two unkowns and should be able to solve for [itex]t_1[/itex], back substitute into the equation of motion, and find [itex]x_1[/itex].
 
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Were you able to solve it? I got [itex]x_1[/itex] equal to a little over 2m using the above methodology.
 

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