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The discussion revolves around the effects of mass and diameter of a planet on gravitational weight, specifically comparing a hypothetical planet with four times the mass of Earth and two times its diameter. Participants are exploring how these factors influence weight and gravitational force.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply gravitational formulas to determine how weight changes with mass and radius. Questions are raised about the significance of diameter in the context of gravitational force, and some participants suggest testing values to understand the relationship better.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering different interpretations of gravitational equations and questioning the assumptions made about radius and mass. Some guidance is provided through attempts to manipulate equations, though no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the relationship between radius and gravitational force, particularly in how diameter impacts weight calculations. Participants are also navigating through the implications of using different values in their equations.

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If your on a planet that has 4x as much mass as earth, but only 2x the diameter, would you weigh 4x as much as you do on earth? Does the diameter of the planet even matter? or is it only the mass that affects how much you weigh.

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hmm, i'll try,

weight is w=mg, where g is the gravitational field strength at a point. Weight is the G force acting on you.

using [tex]F= G \frac{Mm}{r^2}[/tex] where M is mass of Earth and r is radius of earth, according to your example,

[tex]F= G \frac{4Mm}{(\frac{1}{2r})^2}[/tex]

notice that half r is being squared, this gives you a quarter r ! If you bring everything up, and simplify,

you get,

[tex]F= 16 G \frac{Mm}{r^2}[/tex]

so it weighs 16 times more on earth.

The diameter of the planet matters, because the equation depends on r.
 
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misogynisticfeminist said:
hmm, i'll try,

weight is w=mg, where g is the gravitational field strength at a point. Weight is the G force acting on you.

using [tex]F= G \frac{Mm}{r^2}[/tex] where M is mass of Earth and r is radius of earth, according to your example,

[tex]F= G \frac{4Mm}{(\frac{1}{2r})^2}[/tex]

I think this equation should be:

[tex]F= G \frac{4Mm}{(2r)^2}[/tex]

The 4 and the 22 will cancel out and you'll end up with 1g.
 
just sitck some values into it and see how it varies. pick F=forget about constant F=Mm/d^2 and replace everytihng you don't need by 1 and everytihng you need by 2 and 4 accordingly. work smart...work simple.

F=4Mm/(2D)^2 so the 4 cancels the 2^2.
 
ohhh thought the radius was half.
 

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