Solving a System of Forces Problem: Analytical Approach

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The discussion revolves around a system of forces acting on a steel bar, focusing on the concepts of balance and torque. Participants are exploring how to determine if the bar is in equilibrium by analyzing the forces and moments applied to it.

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  • Participants discuss the importance of selecting an appropriate pivot point for torque calculations and suggest resolving forces in both x and y directions to assess equilibrium. There are inquiries about the clarity of the provided diagram and its implications for understanding the problem.

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Some participants have offered general advice on calculating torques and resolving forces, while others express confusion regarding the diagram and the specifics of the problem setup. There is a lack of consensus on the clarity of the original poster's information, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Participants note that the original poster's diagram may contain unclear elements, and there is a mention of using Spanish terms, which could contribute to misunderstandings. The discussion is framed within the constraints of homework help, emphasizing the need for analytical approaches without providing direct solutions.

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On the steel bar of the figure acts a system of forces. Check the balance.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3714/dibujo2ch.jpg
F1(2,-1.5) = (1000N,120º)
M1 = 200Nm
F2(2,1.5) = (1000N,240º)
M2 = 400Nm
F3(0,2.5) = (1000N,0º)
M3 = 1900Nm

¿How do I solve it? ¿Can anyone teach me to do it?
Thanks very much in advance :)
 
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I'm sorry, luv. Your diagram makes no sense to me at all. I can't tell if you're dealing with an S-shaped bar or just what.

Some generic advice: Balance is all about torques. Pick a pivot point on the bar - exactly where doesn't matter mathematically, but there are good places and bad places to put it. Generally, putting the pivot point where one force acts causes that force to cancel out of the torques and makes life easier.

Once you have the pivot point selected, calculate the torque applied from each force involved. Add the torques - if they sum to 0, then the bar is not experiencing torque, is therefore experiencing no angular acceleration, and is therefore balanced. If there's a torque, then no.

Does that help?
 
Diane_ said:
I'm sorry, luv. Your diagram makes no sense to me at all. I can't tell if you're dealing with an S-shaped bar or just what.

Some generic advice: Balance is all about torques. Pick a pivot point on the bar - exactly where doesn't matter mathematically, but there are good places and bad places to put it. Generally, putting the pivot point where one force acts causes that force to cancel out of the torques and makes life easier.

Once you have the pivot point selected, calculate the torque applied from each force involved. Add the torques - if they sum to 0, then the bar is not experiencing torque, is therefore experiencing no angular acceleration, and is therefore balanced. If there's a torque, then no.

Does that help?

Sorry for the diagram, but I used some words and letters in spanish, perhaps this can clear the problem:
The bar has a shape like this: |_
........_|
.......|
I used "M" to represent the torques, and I specified the directions of them.

Can you now help me? Thanks :smile:
 
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Resolve the forces in x and y direction to see that the resultant force in x and y directions are zero. If the resultant force is zero then the center of mass is not accelerating.
Find the resultant momentum about any point. If it is zero then angular acceleration is zero.

A body is said to be in equilibrium if resultant of all the forces acting on it is zero and resultant moment is zero.

(In your fig. all the moments are anticlockwise ! )
 
mukundpa said:
Resolve the forces in x and y direction to see that the resultant force in x and y directions are zero. If the resultant force is zero then the center of mass is not accelerating.
Find the resultant momentum about any point. If it is zero then angular acceleration is zero.

A body is said to be in equilibrium if resultant of all the forces acting on it is zero and resultant moment is zero.

(In your fig. all the moments are anticlockwise ! )

That's the point! I don't know how to solve it, that's why I'm asking for anyone to teach me and show analitically how to do it... Thanks...
 

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