Gravitation: Find Masses for 2 Objects, 4 kg Total

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The problem involves gravitational attraction between two objects, with a specified force and total mass. Participants are tasked with finding the individual masses based on the gravitational force formula.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the gravitational force equation and the relationship between the total mass and individual masses. Questions arise about how to handle the two unknowns and whether the provided equations are sufficient to find the individual masses.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants exploring the relationships between the equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of substitution to solve for the unknowns, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to work with two equations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem, specifically the total mass of 4.0 kg and the gravitational force provided. There is an ongoing exploration of how to effectively use the equations without resolving them.

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I know they involve F= G(m1 x m2)/r^2

1) Two objects attract one another gravitationally, with a force of 2.5 x 10^-10 N when they are .25 m apart. Their total mass is 4.0 kg. Find the individual masses.
 
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You have a formula for the gravitational force. You know the force and distance between the two objects so you can find M_1 M_2, right? You also know what M_1 + M_2 is, right? Are these two equations enough to find M_1 and M_2?
 
No... how can I find m1 and m2? Since there are two unknowns in it?
 
There is an equation m1 + m2 ?
 
Yep, what does the statement "Their total mass is 4.0 kg" mean?
 
That the individual masses will add up to 4.0 kgs?
 
Bingo! So now you know M_1 + M_2 and M_1 * M_2 and you can solve for both.
 
By setting the equations equal to each other?
 
How can I solve for them>?
 
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With 2 equations and 2 unknowns, you have a choice ...
usually it is OK to solve the "simple one" for one unknown.
Substitute that expression into the "complicated equation",
and solve for the only remaining unknown.

Me, I'd solve the multiplication equation first, then
substitute one term into the addition equation.
 
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Thanks I did like you said, and then I used the Quadratic formula and got the answers!
 

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