Is it Rafe or Rafa for the shortened version of Rafael?

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The discussion revolves around the appropriate shortened version of the name Rafael, specifically whether it should be "Rafe" or "Rafa." Participants explore the implications of using nicknames in formal writing, particularly in the context of a report being prepared for a job in Mexico.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the full name Rafael instead of a nickname in formal writing, expressing uncertainty about the appropriateness of nicknames.
  • Another participant agrees with the suggestion to use the full name, noting that some names lend themselves more readily to nicknames than others.
  • Some participants mention that "Rafa" appears to have more online presence, but there is mixed evidence regarding the popularity of "Rafe" versus "Rafa."
  • A participant shares links to a name resource website that provides information on the names "Rafe" and "Rafa," indicating a reliance on external sources for clarification.
  • There is a personal anecdote about the experience of having a name that does not reduce to a nickname, highlighting individual preferences regarding names and nicknames.
  • Another participant humorously suggests the nickname "Raf" as an alternative, while expressing a preference for "Rafa."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the idea that using full names is preferable in formal contexts, but there is no consensus on whether "Rafe" or "Rafa" is the correct shortened version of Rafael. Multiple competing views remain regarding the use of nicknames and their appropriateness.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the cultural implications of using nicknames in different contexts, particularly in relation to Spanish names. There is also a lack of definitive evidence regarding the popularity or correctness of the shortened forms.

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I'm editing a report my boss wrote about a job we are doing in Mexico. One of the workers is named Rafael (is that even spelled right)? We generally called him by the shortened version: is it Rafe or Rafa? I'm guessing Rafe, but I wasn't sure, hence...
 
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I vote that you just use his full name rather than a nickname in a report. I didn't even know there was a short version of Rafael (or Raphael...that would be the English spelling, but you probably have it right for the Spanish spelling). Even if you're on a first name/nickname basis with someone, in technical/formal writing, you still should avoid using nicknames (and then you don't have to figure out how to spell them :biggrin:).
 
Moonbear said:
I vote that you just use his full name rather than a nickname in a report... Even if you're on a first name/nickname basis with someone, in technical/formal writing, you still should avoid using nicknames (and then you don't have to figure out how to spell them :biggrin:).
That would be an easy way out, but it isn't my report, so I don't know if that'll work. I'll try.
 
I agree with Moonbear. I'm rather surprised your boss doesn't know this.
 
Evo said:
I agree with Moonbear. I'm rather surprised your boss doesn't know this.
I don't think it's quite that black and white. Some names more readily reduce to their nicnames than others. Take mine, for example: I rarely use "Russell" in anything but the most formal of communications. Edward/Ed is another good example. Jason/Jay is probably one you wouldn't reduce, but not being Spanish, I don't know how Rafael ranks in that. I'll probably take Moonbear's suggestion anyway, though.

honestrosewater, hmm - google gets more hits for Rafa, but one of the links there, about baby names, doesn't even list it!
 
Just call him Raf! :rolleyes: Although I think it must be Rafa.
 
russ_watters said:
honestrosewater, hmm - google gets more hits for Rafa, but one of the links there, about baby names, doesn't even list it!
Eh, yeah, I'm getting mixed results. The news results were almost all for the same person. I wasn't really thinking. It's bugging me now, so I'm still looking. (Yes, I'm strange.)
 
russ_watters said:
I don't think it's quite that black and white. Some names more readily reduce to their nicnames than others.
My name doesn't reduce to any sort of nickname. I used to hate that when I was a kid and everyone else had nicknames...I felt left out. But, as an adult, I like it...my name is my name, and there are no issues of anyone taking liberties in using a nickname I don't like. One of my friends was absolutely crazy about making sure her kids' names couldn't be turned into nicknames. She was adamant that whatever she named her kids were the names they should be called, so both kids have very short names...I can only imagine she must have had a bad nickname experience as a child. :rolleyes:
 
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Moonbear said:
My name doesn't reduce to any sort of nickname.
What do you think about "Moonie"?

(too easy?)
 
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russ_watters said:
What do you think about "Moonie"?
(too easy?)
Oh, I meant my real name. I think it's hysterical that my nickname here has nicknames. :smile:
 

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