How Do I Solve Forces in Physics Problems Like 1d and 1e?

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The discussion revolves around solving physics problems related to forces, specifically in the context of questions 1d and 1e from a homework assignment. The original poster expresses confusion about how to approach the problem involving forces acting on an object on an inclined plane.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to identify the forces acting on the object, including gravitational components and friction. They question how to combine these forces and what steps to take next. Some participants seek clarification on the meaning of "going down" in the context of force resolution and suggest breaking down the forces into components.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and seeking clarification on the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding resolving forces into components, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps to take.

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The original poster has a time constraint, as they mention a test approaching soon. There is also a request for a final formula, indicating a desire for concrete examples, which has not yet been provided in the discussion.

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in 1 b) i know that the 4 N goes upwards

but in questions like 1 d or e, whta do i do then
for 1 d
1) -mgsin30 is going down, ok
and frictoin is going down, 2) -mgcos30u
ok
and the 8 N, is it 3) (8cos-30, 8sin-30)? if so, that's all good
but i get confused is what do i do with all these terms now
do i add them, 1) 2) 3) , i just wanted to know, the test is in an hour, need help asap :(
thx
 
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SS2006 said:
http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/8104/untitled1wi.jpg
in 1 b) i know that the 4 N goes upwards
but in questions like 1 d or e, whta do i do then
for 1 d
1) -mgsin30 is going down, ok
and frictoin is going down, 2) -mgcos30u
ok
and the 8 N, is it 3) (8cos-30, 8sin-30)?
What exactly do you mean by "going down"? What you want to do is resolve the 8 N force into components parallel to and perpendicular to the ramp. The "8N" force will have components 8 cos(30) N up the ramp and
8 sin(30) N into the ramp. You will probably also want to calculate the component of weight into the ramp so you can use the sum of those two forces into the ramp to find the friction force (which is, of course, back down the ramp). The component of weight parallel to the ramp will be back down the ramp and it, along with the friction force, will subtract from the component of the 8 N up the ramp.

if so, that's all good
but i get confused is what do i do with all these terms now
do i add them, 1) 2) 3) , i just wanted to know, the test is in an hour, need help asap :(
thx
 
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i mean going dwon the x-y axis
u kow when u write up the ramp as a x-y axis
can you show me the final formula, of just one and how u arrived on the final answer, ill never get it until i see one
got all weekend tho that's good
 
any help ppl
thanks
 
I'm not understanding what you are doing. In what questions do you hae problems, and what were your attempts?
 

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