Elevator pulled upward by cable - find tension

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The problem involves an elevator cab being pulled upward by a cable, with a focus on the tension in the cable when a coin is dropped inside the cab. The combined mass of the cab and its occupant is given, along with the downward acceleration of the coin relative to the cab.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the acceleration of the coin and the acceleration of the cab. Questions are raised about the implications of the elevator's motion on the forces acting on the system, particularly when the elevator is moving upward and potentially slowing down.

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Some participants have offered insights into the dynamics of the situation, including the effects of acceleration on the forces involved. There is an exploration of how the apparent acceleration of the coin relates to the tension in the cable, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the effects of gravitational acceleration and the conditions under which the elevator is operating. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the forces at play.

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here's the question,

An elevator cab is pulled upward by a cable. The cab and its single occupant have a combined mass of 2000kg. When that occupant drops a coin, its acceleration relative to the cab is 8.00m/s^2 downward. What is the tension in the cable?

could someone explane to me how to relate the accerleration of the coin downward to the acceleration of the cab being pulled up.
 
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IF the elevator is going up, and the apparent acceleration in the cab is less than 9.8 m/s/s, then the elevator is at that moment slowing down.

If an object is being pulled up at a constant velocity, then there is zero acceleration because forces are balanced (specifically, the tension in the cable balances the weight). Dropping the coin inside at this moment, the coin would display normal acceleration to the person inside the cab, no matter what speed the elevator was doing.

If the elevator is slowing down, then the upward tension in the cable must be slightly less than the total weight (thereby making net force NOT zero but slightly downward).

So what's the accelration of the cab, if gravitational acceleration "seems to be" 1.8 m/s/s less than normal?
 
My first instinct was that the upward acceleration of the cab was slowing down, this is what i did

Fnet= T - mg = ma
T - 2000(9.8) = 2000(-1.8)
T - 19600 = -3600
T= 19600 - 3600
T = 16000 N

Is this correct ?
 
You are correct. Follow that instinct (but don't say "the acceleration was slowing down," it's the speed that is slowing down.)
 
thanks for the help:smile:
 

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