Unusual Double Rainbow at Zoobie Brush Shelter

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of a double rainbow observed near the zoobie brush shelter, exploring the conditions and explanations for its occurrence. Participants share personal experiences, theories, and references related to rainbows, including potential classifications and visual characteristics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a photograph of a double rainbow and prompts questions about how two rainbows can occur simultaneously.
  • Another participant suggests that the presence of two rainclouds could explain the phenomenon.
  • A different view proposes that the observed phenomenon might be a fogbow or supernumerary rainbows, referencing external sources for further information.
  • One participant explains the mechanics of double rainbows, noting that they result from internal reflections within raindrops, leading to a primary and a secondary rainbow with reversed color orders.
  • Another participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the arrangement of colors in double rainbows, admitting that the rainbows are always concentric.
  • Participants share personal anecdotes about their experiences with rainbows, highlighting the beauty and clarity of the rainbows they have seen.

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There is no consensus on the exact explanation for the double rainbow phenomenon, with multiple competing views presented regarding its formation and characteristics. Participants express differing opinions on the nature of the observed rainbows and their visual properties.

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Some claims rely on assumptions about the conditions under which rainbows form, and there are references to external sources that may not be universally accepted or verified within the discussion.

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I caught this picture of an unusual double rainbow yesterday after a shower near the zoobie brush shelter here:
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How can you get two rainbows at once?
 
Its called a fogbow, i think (or could be Supernumerary rainbows)

http://www.philiplaven.com/p2b.html
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/rainbows/supers.htm

You can watch the detailed lecture here:
http://mfile.akamai.com/7870/rm/mit...870/8/8.02/videolectures/wl-802-lec31-220k.rm

One sure way to distinguish it is by looking at colour bands themselves. As you can see one has red on outside and one has red on inside, that's why you know its the same rainbow

Also just by looking at the rainbow you can tell what kind of pollution there is in the area

http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/droplets/fogdrpsz.htm
 
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russ_watters said:
Two rainclouds.
Haha no.

Note the second rainbow is reversed.

A double rainbow occurs due to a second internal reflection within the raindrops. I good description wouldinlcude a diagram of the refraction properties of the drop of water, but I could not find any online.

Here is a brief explanation from theweathernetwork.com:

Double rainbows are not unusual, in fact, they occur with every rainbow. It's just that they are rarely bright enough to be seen.

When white sunlight enters each raindrop, it bends. The bending breaks light into its rainbow colours. The light then reflects off the back of the raindrop. On leaving the drops the light bends again. [Each raindrop scatters the full spectrum of colours, but you will see only a single colour from each drop]. Sometimes light reflects twice inside the raindrop. This action will form two rainbows: a primary rainbow that is produced by the first reflection of light and a larger secondary bow above the first, produced by the second reflection.

Colours in the secondary bow are in reverse order to those in the primary rainbow, with red on the inside and violet on the outside. Since only a small number of rays experience this double reflection, the secondary bow is always fainter than the primary.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Haha no.
I stand corrected. :redface: I guess that should be obvious since they are always concentric...
 
i never noticed that they were opposite like that...

i saw a reall cool one at the mall over the spring. both rainbows were clear from end to end. and the brighter one was absolutely amazing. it looked painted into the sky, mirrored so beautifully by the second one.
 
We caught a rainbow on Sandstone Peak on Sunday. I'd show you the picture but I'd have to upload it. And actually, I can't even find the camera at the moment.

Your double rainbow is very pretty.
 
wow two pots 'o gold!
 
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Hey Zoob,

Looking over the Conejo and San Fernando valleys, from the highest peak in the Santa Monica range on Sunday:

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The intensity isn't as great as yours. But we enjoyed it!
 

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