What's the Correct Way to Add Multiple Vectors Using Components in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the addition of multiple vectors in a physics context, specifically focusing on a problem involving a cyclist's displacements represented in terms of direction and magnitude. The subject area is vector addition and component analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to break down the vectors into their x and y components for addition but encounters discrepancies in the results. Some participants question the accuracy of the component calculations and the interpretation of directional notation.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the original poster's calculations and the notation used for vector directions. There is a request for explicit details on the component calculations to identify potential errors. The conversation is ongoing, with no consensus reached yet.

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The original poster is learning physics through distance education and is grappling with the notation of vector directions, which may be contributing to confusion in their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the use of trigonometric functions based on directional angles.

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hey, I've just started physics (yr 11&12 by distance education) and already stuck. So the very basic Question is:
When working out multiple vectors, I understand that it is necessary to break them down into components. (I've been taught to graph the x component and y component for each vector and then add all the x components, ad all the y components then R=square root of (x^2+y^2))
However I keep coming up with the wrong answer for this problem:
A cyclist undergoes three successive displacements of 120m at N40E followed by 82m at S72E and finally 195m at S35W. (all in degrees)
The answer is 102.7m at S24.9E
but I get 120.4m at S69.3W? What have I done wrong?.
 
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quis said:
hey, I've just started physics (yr 11&12 by distance education) and already stuck. So the very basic Question is:
When working out multiple vectors, I understand that it is necessary to break them down into components. (I've been taught to graph the x component and y component for each vector and then add all the x components, ad all the y components then R=square root of (x^2+y^2))
However I keep coming up with the wrong answer for this problem:
A cyclist undergoes three successive displacements of 120m at N40E followed by 82m at S72E and finally 195m at S35W. (all in degrees)
The answer is 102.7m at S24.9E
but I get 120.4m at S69.3W? What have I done wrong?.

We can't figure out what you did wrong if you don't show your work. Write out explicitly the x and y components that you summed up.

Zz.
 
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sure, sorry, new to this.
A cyclist undergoes three successive displacements of 120m at N40E followed by 82m at S72E and finally 195m at S35W.
Vetor::::::X component ::::::::::: Y Component
120m:::120 cos 40 = 91.9 ::::: 120 sin 40 = 77.13 (ie NE)
82m::::82 cos 72 = 23.3 :::::: 82 sin 72 = (-)77.98 (ie SE )
195m:::195 cos 35 =(-)159.7:: 195 sin 35 = (-)111.8 (ie SW)
R ::::::: =(-)44.5 ::::::::::::::::: = (-)112.65
R= square root of (44.5^2+112.65^2) = 121.1
angle=tan(-1)(112.65/44.5) = 68.4
(The answer in the back of the pamphlet is 102.7m at S24.9E)
 
quis said:
sure, sorry, new to this.
A cyclist undergoes three successive displacements of 120m at N40E followed by 82m at S72E and finally 195m at S35W.
Vetor::::::X component ::::::::::: Y Component
120m:::120 cos 40 = 91.9 ::::: 120 sin 40 = 77.13 (ie NE)
82m::::82 cos 72 = 23.3 :::::: 82 sin 72 = (-)77.98 (ie SE )
195m:::195 cos 35 =(-)159.7:: 195 sin 35 = (-)111.8 (ie SW)
R ::::::: =(-)44.5 ::::::::::::::::: = (-)112.65
R= square root of (44.5^2+112.65^2) = 121.1
angle=tan(-1)(112.65/44.5) = 68.4
(The answer in the back of the pamphlet is 102.7m at S24.9E)

Sorry, I forgot that I attempted this. That's what happens when you get old - you forget things.

Now, there is a problem at my end in understanding the notation being used. What does N-angle-E mean? To me, N40E seems to indicate that the direction is 40 degrees to the east of north.

The same with all the other directions given. If this is true, then it doesn't match the components you have written.

Zz.
 
Thanks for following up,
yeh it's the compass system, that is how it's written in my textbook.
so if that don't match the components I've written does that mean that I've got then the wrong way around, I mean using Cos and sine at the wrong times? please explain.
 

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