Work and energy - easy question

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The discussion revolves around a problem in mechanics related to work and energy, specifically concerning an object sliding along a looped track and the conditions required for it to remain on the track at the top of the loop.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal acceleration at the top of the loop, with one participant attempting to derive the minimum height from which the mass must be released. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the approach and the interpretation of height measurements.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing insights into the equations governing the motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between height and radius, but no consensus has been reached on the final interpretation of the results.

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Participants are discussing the implications of height measurements in relation to the loop's geometry and the effects of gravitational acceleration on the system.

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a mass "m" slides without friction along a looped apparatus. If the object is to remain on the track, even at the top of the loop (whose radius is "r") from what minimum height "h" must it be released?
 
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Remember that at the top of the loop, gravity must provide the centripetal acceleration of the object.
 
right. so

mg = (mv^2)r, masses cancel, solve for v^2

v^2 = 9.8r

and E = 1/2mv^2 + mgh
mgh = 1/2m (9.8r) + m(9.8)(2r)
9.8h = 1/2 (9.8r) + (9.8)(2r)
h = 1.55 --> = height of loop

am i tackling this right so far?
 
7tongc5 said:
right. so
mg = (mv^2)r, masses cancel, solve for v^2
v^2 = 9.8r
and E = 1/2mv^2 + mgh
mgh = 1/2m (9.8r) + m(9.8)(2r)
9.8h = 1/2 (9.8r) + (9.8)(2r)
Right, when "h" is measured from the level of the bottom of the loop.
h = 1.55 --> = height of loop
am i tackling this right so far?
:confused:

just divide with g, and get h=2.5r.
 

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