Relative velocity of Electromagnetic waves

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the relative velocity of a galaxy based on the observed frequency of electromagnetic waves emitted by oxygen atoms. The original poster presents a specific formula and numerical values but expresses confusion regarding the correctness of their calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula for relative velocity but questions the accuracy of their result. Some participants suggest rechecking the formula and its components, while others raise concerns about the clarity of the thread title and its implications.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the formula used and discussing its components. There are differing opinions on whether the denominator should include a factor of 2 or 4, indicating an exploration of the formula's correctness. The original poster has found a reference that may clarify the situation.

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There is mention of various sources listing the formula differently, which may contribute to the confusion regarding the correct application of the formula in this context.

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I have a problem that I cannot get the correct answer.

An Astronomer observes electromagnetic waves emmitted by oxygen atoms in a distant galaxy that have a frequency of 5.71 *10^14 Hz. On earth, oxygen atoms emit waves that have a freq. of 5.841 *10^14. What is the relative velocity of the galaxy with respect to the astronomer on earth.

Vrel = [(F(observed) - F(Source))/(2*F(Source))] * c

Vrel = [(5.710*10^14 - 5.841*10^14)/(2*5.841*10^14)] * (3.00 *10^8)

answer = 3.3641 *10^6 m/s


What is wrong with my calculations?

The correct answer is 6.724 * 10^6 m/s

Thanks
 
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Notice your answer is off by a factor of 1/2. Recheck the formula you used and you'll see there should be a 2 in the denominator.
 
By the way- your title, "Relative velocity of Electromagnetic waves", is very misleading! Obviously the velocity of electromagnetic waves (light) is, relative to anything, the speed of light, c. What you see different from another observer is the frequency which is what allows you to calculate the velocity of the source relative to you.
 
Vrel = [(F(observed) - F(Source))/(2*F(Source))] * c

This formula already has the 2 in the denominator. To get the correct answer, It would need to be 4*F(Source)?

I cannot find anything to support this.
 
Eng67 said:
Vrel = [(F(observed) - F(Source))/(2*F(Source))] * c
This formula already has the 2 in the denominator. To get the correct answer, It would need to be 4*F(Source)?
I cannot find anything to support this.
I mistyped, obviously I meant there shouldn't be a two in the denominator. Check your reference.
 
Thanks.

I finally found the correct reference for this formula. Many sources have this listed differently.
 

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