How Many Students Were Initially Planned for the History Class Trip?

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The problem involves a history class planning a trip with a total cost of $189, which is to be shared among the students. After 6 students drop out, the remaining students decide to pay an additional $2 each to avoid cancellation of the trip. The goal is to determine the initial number of students in the class.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on the number of students and the cost per student before and after some students drop out. There is exploration of how to represent the additional cost incurred by the remaining students.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to correctly set up the equations, suggesting that the original poster reconsider the relationships between the number of students and the costs involved. There is an indication that progress has been made, with one participant expressing confidence in their understanding.

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There is a mention of needing to form a quadratic equation, and some participants question the assumptions made about the cost distribution and the impact of the students dropping out on the overall cost per student.

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Students from a history class prepare a trip that will cost them a total of $189 that will be shared between them. The day before the trip, 6 students discovered that they can't participate in the trip. To avoid cancellation, the rest of the class decided to pay an additional $2 each.
How many students are there in this class?

I have:
(x-6) = the number of students going
189/x = the cost for the whole class before the 6 students couldn't go

2(x-6) + 189/x = 189 <=== not sure if this is even right.
2x - 12 + 189/x = 189
2x^2 - 12x + 189 = 189x
2x^2 - 201x + 189
2(x^2 - 100.5x) + 189
2(x - 50.25)^2 - 5050.125 + 189
2(x - 50.25)^2 - 4861.125

That doesn't seem to make sense. So I hope you can help me.
 
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this first needs to be set to a quadradic equation as your title suggests, there should be an x and a y this is because the number of students correlates with the amount each student has to pay (or the amount they would have had to pay before the 6 students left)
 
thua said:
Students from a history class prepare a trip that will cost them a total of $189 that will be shared between them. The day before the trip, 6 students discovered that they can't participate in the trip. To avoid cancellation, the rest of the class decided to pay an additional $2 each.
How many students are there in this class?
I have:
(x-6) = the number of students going
189/x = the cost for the whole class before the 6 students couldn't go
2(x-6) + 189/x = 189 <=== not sure if this is even right.
You have every right to be unsure! Think about what each part means. x- 6 is the number of students who are going and I assume the "2" is the $2 extra each is paying so 2(x- 6) is the total extra money paid. But "189/x" is the amount each was paying before. Surely you don't want to add the total extra and the amount each was paying. I think what you intended to say was that, previously each was paying 189/x and now each of those who is going must pay an additional $2- so the amount each of the persons going pays is 2+ 189/x. Now that is the amount paid by x- 6 people: (2+ 189/x)(x-6)= 189.

2x - 12 + 189/x = 189
2x^2 - 12x + 189 = 189x
2x^2 - 201x + 189
2(x^2 - 100.5x) + 189
2(x - 50.25)^2 - 5050.125 + 189
2(x - 50.25)^2 - 4861.125
That doesn't seem to make sense. So I hope you can help me.

Start with (2+ 189/x)(x-6)= 189 and try again.
 
i think i got it now... thanks a bunch!
 
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let x = Initial number of students in the group
189/x = cost per student

when 6 students discovered they cannot participate
x-6 = resulting number of students after the 6 was unable to go with the group
this leads to 189/x-6 being the cost divided among remaining students

To avoid cancellation [(189/x) +2] =amount the rest of the class decided to pay.

In order for the trip to push through:

(189/x-6) = [(189/x) +2]
or
(189/x-6) - 189/x = 2

x^2 -6x-567 = 0

x= [6+/- (sqrt (36+4*567))]/2=27 (discarding the negative root)

therefore x=27 is the original number of students
 

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