What force must the man pull on the rope to rise with a constant velocity

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving forces, pulleys, and constant velocity. The scenario describes a man in a bosun's chair, connected by a rope over a frictionless pulley, and explores the forces required for the man to rise with a constant velocity and under acceleration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the force exerted by the man and the weight of the system, questioning the implications of constant velocity versus acceleration. There is confusion regarding the correct force needed and the mechanical advantage provided by the pulley system.

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The conversation reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the forces involved. Some participants have offered clarifications about the mechanics of the pulley system and the forces at play, while others are still questioning their interpretations of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for constant velocity and the implications of additional acceleration in subsequent parts of the question. There is also mention of a co-worker's involvement in the scenario, which adds complexity to the force calculations.

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Ok, I already posted this a few days ago but I am bringing it back because i don't quite understand

a man sits in a bosuns chair that dangles from a massless rope, which runs over a massless frictionless pulley, and back down to the mans hand. The combined mass of the man and the chair is 95Kg. with what force must the man pull on the rope to rise with a constant velocity

so..
T=-mg/2

T = 465.5N
this doesn't make sense because if he is to rise any amount, he would have to exert more force that gravity does..Wouldnt he?
 
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suspenc3 said:
Wouldnt he?

No, the problem says that he is to move at constant velocity. That means that the net force that is applied to him must equal the total weight of the man and the chair exactly.
 
Ok..confused now..does this mean that he must exert a force of 931N
Or was my original answer right?
 
No, you were right at the beginning. The net force acting on the man + chair is 2T. The man only has to exert a force of T. The problem is supposed to show you the mechanical advantage of using a pulley.
 
Ok, Thanks

So part B asks with what magnitude must the man pull on the rope if he is to rise with an upward acceleration of 1.3m/s^2
Any hints?
 
Use Newton's second law.
 
Now it says that the rope is extended to the ground where a co-worker is pulling on the rope
With what force magnitude must the co-worker pull on the rope to maintain a constant velocity?

now would the answer be 931N
 
Yesiree. That's because the force applied to the chair + man is only T, whereas before it was 2T.
 
Now it is asking for the magnitude of the forces on the ceiling from the pulley systems

Would this part just be the weight of the man+chair +the force applied?
 

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