Integrate (e^x +1)/(e^x -1): Tips & Hints

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function (e^x + 1)/(e^x - 1). Participants are exploring various methods to approach this integral, including substitution and partial fractions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find a suitable substitution to simplify the integral. Some participants suggest breaking the integral into two parts and applying different substitutions to each. Others propose specific substitutions, such as u = e^x, and discuss the transformation of the integral into a form suitable for partial fractions.

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Participants are actively sharing insights and suggestions regarding different approaches to the integral. There is recognition that multiple methods can lead to different forms of the answer, and some participants are verifying their results against textbook solutions.

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There is mention of potential discrepancies between participants' results and those found in textbooks, highlighting the variability in integration outcomes based on the methods employed.

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Hi. I am trying to integrate (e^x +1)/(e^x -1)
I have looked at this for almost an hour and don´t know how to start with it. I want to use substitution but I have to rewrite this in some way. Could anyone please give me a little hint?
 
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Swatch, try breaking the integral into two pieces and using a different substitution on each piece. One of the pieces will immediately look easy, and the other will be easy after one line of algebra.
 
Perhaps I'm missing something but a kind of obvious substitution would be
u= ex. Then (ex+1)/(ex-1) becomes (u-1)/(u+ 1). Of course, du= exdx so dx= (1/u)du. The integral
[tex]\int \frac{e^x+1}{e^x-1}dx[/tex] becomes
[tex]\int \frac{u+1}{u(u-1)}du[/tex]
which can be done with partial fractions.
If you don't like partial fractions, let u= ex-1. Then du= exdx so dx= (1/u) du again but now ex+ 1= u+ 2. The integral becomes
[tex]\int\frac{u+2}{u^2}du= \int \left(u^{-1}+ 2u^{-2}\right)du[/tex].
 
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I integrated with u=e^x and used partial fraction
to get
-ln(e^x) + 2*ln(e^x -1) +C

I differentiated this back to the beginning, so I should be right. But I got a different looking answer in my textbook.
 
If the derivative of your solution gives the integrand again, you should be OK.
It's possible to find different forms of answers when integrating, that very much depends on the method used.
 
thank you for your help
 
mathmatica says it is

-2x+xln(x)+Li(x)
 

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