Solving Jane's Swing Problem: Find Min Speed to Cross River & Return

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The problem involves determining the minimum speed required for Jane to swing across a river to rescue Tarzan, considering various forces and angles. The scenario includes parameters such as Jane's mass, the width of the river, the force of the wind, the length of the vine, and the angle at which she swings.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles to find the minimum speed needed for Jane to swing across the river. They express uncertainty about calculating the change in height (delta h) in their energy equation.

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Participants are engaged in exploring the problem, with some questioning the original poster's approach and others suggesting the need for further clarification on the geometry involved in the swing. There is an indication of ongoing dialogue about the necessary calculations and assumptions.

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Constraints include the requirement to show work according to forum guidelines, and the problem setup involves specific values for mass, distance, force, and angle that are critical to the calculations.

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This is the question I have from my book, I have tried numerous methods of solving it, but I cannot obtain the correct answers. If someone could get me started with an equation I could go from there...

Jane, whose mass is 50kg, needs to swing across a river (having width D) filled with man eating crocodiles to save Tarzan from danger. She must swing into a wind exerting a force F, on a vine having length L and initially making an angle theta with the vertical.

Taking D=50m, F=110N, L=40m and Theta=50 degrees...

a)with what minimum speed must Jane begin her swing in order to just make it to the other side?

b)Once the rescue is complete, Tarzan and Jane must swing back across the river. With what minimum speed must they begin their swing? Assume Tarzan has a mass of 80kg.


Well for part a I figured that since she is JUST going to make to the other side..

[tex]E_{Jane}-W_{wind}=0[/tex]

[tex]\implies mg \Delta h+\frac{1}{2}mv^2-F_{wind}d=0[/tex]

or

[tex]mg \Delta h + \frac{1}{2}mv^2=F_{wind}d[/tex]

This expression seems like what I want, the only problem is that I can't find delta h..

Part (b) is obviously closely related to (a), so I just want to do a first.



Thanks
Josh
 
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You need to show some work. Read the guidelines you agreed to.
 
Define angle alpha to be the angle swept by the rope from its point of fixation (at the top of the tree or whatever), When Jane is hanging directly down she will be L meters away from the top, when she is about to swing (with the 50 deg angle), she is L meters away from the top at a 50 deg angle from the vertical, there's a trig function that will show you her displacement in the Y direction.. remember the rope is the hypotenuse here.
 

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