What Are the Properties of f(x) with Critical Points at f'(-1) and f'(1)?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a function f(x) with critical points at f'(-1) and f'(1). Participants explore the implications of given conditions on the first and second derivatives, including values and concavity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of critical points and the behavior of the function based on the first and second derivatives. There are questions about specific values of the function at critical points and the uniqueness of the solution. Some suggest potential forms of the function that could satisfy the conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the conditions being explored. Some participants have offered potential function forms, while others question the validity of specific values and the uniqueness of the solution.

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Participants note that the problem stems from a quiz context, and there are concerns about conflicting conditions, particularly regarding concavity and specific function values.

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ok here is a good one i found
a) f'(-1)=f'(1)=0
b) f'(x)<0 when -1<x<1
c) f'(x)>0 when x<-1 and x>1
d) f(-1)=4; f(1)=0; and f(0) has no value
e) f''(x)<0 when x<0 and f''(x)>0 when x>0
what is the original f?
 
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Are you sure f(-1) = 4 and not f(-1) = -4?
 
Are you sure your not just asking us to do your homework :rolleyes: ?
 
Does this even have a unique solution? You've mostly given inequalities, so I suspect not.

Let's look at the interval (<,-1]
f'(-1)=0, the graph is horizontal at x=-1
f'(x)>0 when x<-1. It is increasing all the way to x=-1
f(-1)=4, goes through the point (-1,4)
e) f''(x)<0 when x<0. And is concave.

Well, I can think of one function in this region which satisfies it. A mountain parabola like -(x-a)^2+b. The vertex should be at -1, so that gives a. It goes through (-1,4) so this gives b.
Surely you can find more functions. It doesn't even matter whether we 'compress' the graph to the line x=-1, so -k(x-a)^2+b works just as well for any k>0.
 
idk it was on a quiz in (AP calc) i had the other day and i got it wrong and was wonder if anyone could get an answer for it.
 
I guessed the following solution

F(x) = c1x^-1 + c2 x + c3

You can check it all works out, minus one problem (as I mentioned above) the condition f(-1) =4 clashes with the concavity conditions on f''.. C1 needs to be strictly positive.

Nor would it be unique, the inverse power term works so long as its power is odd.

so try something like

f = x^-1 +x -2
 

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