Maxwell's Equations: are they complete?

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The discussion revolves around the completeness of Maxwell's Equations in describing electromagnetic fields and their interactions. Participants explore the mathematical structure of the equations, the role of boundary conditions, and the implications of using potentials in the formulation.

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  • One participant notes that there are 9 scalar equations and 16 scalar unknowns in Maxwell's Equations, suggesting a lack of completeness unless additional constraints are applied to current density J and charge density ρ.
  • Another participant proposes that using potentials V and A reduces the number of necessary equations to eight, implying a different approach to the problem.
  • A third participant argues that the continuity equation is derived from Maxwell's equations and emphasizes the interdependence of the equations, raising questions about the degrees of freedom and initial state specification.
  • Boundary conditions are mentioned as critical in specific contexts, such as solving for fields within a waveguide, indicating that the discussion also touches on practical applications.

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Participants express differing views on the completeness of Maxwell's Equations and the necessity of additional constraints or formulations. There is no consensus on how to resolve the apparent discrepancies in the number of equations and unknowns.

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Participants highlight the importance of gauge freedom in the potential formulation and the need for specific initial conditions, which may not be straightforward from the equations alone. The discussion reflects a complex interplay of mathematical and physical considerations.

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Maxwell's Equations:
[tex]\nabla \cdot D= \rho[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \cdot B=0[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \times E=- \partial B/ \partial t[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \times H=J+ \partial D/ \partial t[/tex]
Together with the continuity eq:
[tex]\nabla \cdot J=- \partial \rho / \partial t[/tex]
There are 9 scalar equations and 16 scalar unknowns (B, E, D, H, J, [tex]\rho[/tex])
If we are supplied with the relations that relate B to H and E to D (e.g. a linear media relation):
D=f(E)
H=g(B)
we have 6 more scalar equations and therefore 15 equations in total. We are still one equation short of solving the Maxwell Eq, if we are supplied with appropriate B.C. and Initial Conditions, and we do not constrain the current density J and charge density [tex]\rho[/tex]. In that case, how do we solve the Maxwell Equations?
 
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If you describe the EM field by its potentials [itex]V[/itex] and [itex]\vec{A}[/itex]
and the source field by the charge [itex]\rho[/itex] and current [itex]\vec{J}[/itex]

Then you need just eight equations:

[tex]\nabla \cdot D= \rho[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \cdot B=0[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \times E=- \partial B/ \partial t \ \ \ \[/tex] (=3x)
[tex]\nabla \times H=J+ \partial D/ \partial t \ \ \ \[/tex] (=3x)Regards, Hans
 
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The continuity equation is not an independent assumption, but follows from Maxwell's equations (apply the curl to the fourth). However, they form an interdependent set of equations, so it's not at all obvious from these equations what the degrees of freedom are, or how to specify the initial state of the system (the field and the particles).

To see the degrees of freedom more clearly, you should use a potential formulation. A statement of a potential function V and a vector potential [itex]\vec A[/itex] will then be necessary and sufficient to give the field everywhere (you also need the positions and velocities of all the particles for the system ofcourse). The choice on V and [itex]\vec A[/itex] is not unique though. There's some freedom of choice which we call gauge freedom.

For the Coulomb gauge, the initial condition you should specify are the positions and velocities of all particles, the field [itex]\vec A[/itex] and its time derivative (since it obeys a wave equation).
 
There are boundary conditions that apply too, for example solving for a field within a waveguide.

Claude.
 

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