Properties of low-frequencey sound

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The discussion revolves around the properties of low-frequency sound, specifically its low attenuation and low absorption characteristics. Participants explore the underlying physics, theoretical frameworks, and implications of these properties in various contexts, including interactions with solid objects and barriers.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that low frequency corresponds to long wavelengths, which interact less with objects due to their size.
  • Others question why low-frequency sound is absorbed less by larger objects, such as the ground, compared to higher frequencies.
  • A participant suggests modeling a wall as a dampened oscillator, positing that lower frequencies may propagate more easily due to solid objects having low resonant frequencies.
  • Another viewpoint indicates that low-frequency sound does not cause resonance vibrations in solids, leading to lower absorption, while high frequencies are reflected.
  • One participant expresses confusion about how sound can be heard on the far side of a barrier, questioning the role of vibration versus transmission through the barrier.
  • Further questions arise about the relationship between sound frequency and the natural frequency of barriers, and how this affects absorption and transmission.
  • Another participant asserts that sound is heard because it vibrates the solid's lattice, with resonance leading to increased absorption at matching frequencies.
  • One participant mentions that the dispersive nature of low-frequency sounds is related to diffraction, drawing a parallel with light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the mechanisms behind low-frequency sound absorption and transmission, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about the interaction of sound with solid objects, including the dependence on frequency and natural resonant frequencies, but these assumptions are not fully explored or settled.

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I would like to know the physics behind the low attenuation and low absorption of low frequencey sound. Every book/resource I've consulted so far presents these two propeties as empirical facts without really seting them in any kind of theoretical framework. Can anyone here point me in the right direction?
 
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Rough idea: Low frequency is equivalent to long wavelength. If the wavelength is long compared to a typical dimension of the object (for example, wall thickness), the sound wave doesn't interact much with the object.
 
Seems sensible. But why is it that low-frequencey sound is absorbed less by the ground (to take an example of an object with larger dimensions) than higher frequencies?

Thought: When a pressure wave impacts the surface of a wall, I would imagine this sets up a vibration that travels though it in every direction (though probably with more intensity in the direction of the wave). Crudely modelling the wall as a highly-dampened, driven oscillator: It would seem reasonable to expect that the closer the frequencey of the driving vibration is to the natural frequencey of the system, the easier it will be for the driving vibration to propagate through the system. Since solid objects tend to have low resonant frequencies, is this why low f sound waves are not highly absorbed by solid objects?

Would this also explain why low f sound waves are so dispersive? Since a large portion of anything solid the wave interacts with will be set vibrating and thus emitting sound in many directions? Or am I just spouting gibberish?
 
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It is due to the crystal model of solid. When the frequency of the sound is too low to cause resonance vibration with the atoms of the solid, sound waves are not highly absorbed by solid objects. And on the other hand, it is the fact that when the frequency of the sound is too high, sound waves are also not highly absorbed by solid objects. The difference is that low frequency sound will penetrate the solid without much absorption but high frequency sound will be reflected by the solid.
 
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I always assumed that we could detect transmitted sound on the far side of a barrier because the incident sound waves vibrate the barrier. In light of what you have told me, I'm obviously mistaken.

My next question then is how are we able to hear something on the far side of a wall? Can sound traveling in air only be transmitted through a slightly pourous medium?
 
Sorry to keep posting questions here, but I'm a little confused. Surely if a vibration is closer to the natural frequency of a solid, the greater the sound transmitted through the solid (rather than absorbed by it).

These questions are getting disorganised, to summarise:
-is sound of frequency f aborbed more, or less by a barrier with natural freq f?
-is sound heard on the far side of a barrier because it vibrates it, or because it somehow passes through without interacting with it?
 
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Sound is heard on the far side of a barrier because it vibrates the lattice of the solid. And only when the f of sound is similar to that of the solid, the resonance vibration comes out and the sound is absorbed more because its energy is transmitted to the solid. That's my opinion.
 
The disspersive nature of low frequency sounds is due to diffraction. The same thing happens for light. As for it passing through solids easier I don't know if its correct to say resonance makes it pass through easier but that if the sound is at the objects natural frequency than it will resonate and amplify the wave.
 

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