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zoobyshoe
Nov28-03, 05:31 PM
Who does artwork, and in what media?
Oh! I do a little! Not professional just do it as I like Arts!
I do all with Pencil that's what I think ancient one and gorgeous :)
zoobyshoe
Nov28-03, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Moni I do all with Pencil that's what I think ancient one and gorgeous :)
Yes, I do pencil drawings myself.
It is a gorgeous medium.
You do people, landscapes, abstract?
Mainly people, portraits...few abstract drawings...just posted today:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9818
zoobyshoe
Nov28-03, 07:58 PM
That's excellent, Moni! (I didn't happen to check that thread.)
I also prefer to draw people, rather than landscapes or still lifes. For abstract stuff my favorite medium is colored pencil.
Thanks! zoobyshoe!
It's very hard to find Science people (mainly students) interested in Arts! They just love arts, enjoy movies but not make many!
It's good that you're not only interested but also do them...fine [:)]
zoobyshoe
Nov28-03, 08:25 PM
From the thread "Playing Music" I find out alot of people who post here play musical instruments. I'm betting there are alot of amateur artists at PF as well.
einsteinian77
Nov28-03, 09:13 PM
I've been drawing and painting since I was about 7. My prefered medium has always been charcoal though. I've made a few bucks from some of my work but I don't think I will do it all my life since I'm still young.
zoobyshoe
Nov29-03, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by einsteinian77
I've been drawing and painting since I was about 7. My prefered medium has always been charcoal though. I've made a few bucks from some of my work but I don't think I will do it all my life since I'm still young.
What kind of subject matter do you prefer?
I don't get the impression charcoal is an easy medium to handle.
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
What kind of subject matter do you prefer?
I don't get the impression charcoal is an easy medium to handle.
Yes! einsteinian77!
What's your subject matter?
Do anyone of you know computer arts...I mean: photoshop, Corel, Illustrator or even 3DStudio Max or Maya ???
einsteinian77
Nov29-03, 01:59 PM
My favorite subject matter has always been faces. I've done hundreds of faces and just about all of them I've done in charcoal, ink, and pencil. I really only use oils for landscapes.
I don't know any photoarts really.
who are your favorite artists? Mine are van gogh, Escher, and someone you probably haven't heard of
100 faces! Awsome! don't you upload your works? We just want to see your work and enjoy your arts!
But I can only use pencils, no ink or any other media :( Actually I'm self taught :)
My fav. may be not so famous one but I think you should see his works.......Exellent isn't it !!!
Here is his fantastic gallery:
http://www.brownblackandwhite.com/gallery.html
rick1138
Nov30-03, 06:20 PM
It's very hard to find Science people (mainly students) interested in Arts!
I am actually more of an arts person interested in the sciences - I work in most physical painting and drawing mediums, and in computer mediums as well,except I have only played with 3d programs similar to Maya. I'm also interested in a-life, though a lot of people don't consider that to be art.
It seems fine too!
I think Greg now can open a secion in PF Lounge for the creative works of the PF members! That may be any good poem, poetry or any other art works! For art works img link will be better than uploading.....
It's true there are sepatete sections in many good sites for those particular subjects. But those are for professionals...here members are mainly science orientied so their works may not be at that level. But still they can share their works with these familier faces :)
Then ...
einsteinian77
Nov30-03, 08:10 PM
I don't know how to upload, but maybe you can tell me how? I liked the gallery you showed me very much he seems like a very talented sketcher. I'd really like to show you my work so if you could tell me how to I would be grateful, thanks.
zoobyshoe
Dec1-03, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by rick1138
I am actually more of an arts person interested in the sciences
This describes me as well. I've always found both art and science intriguing, but the bulk of the weight has been on the art side.
I work in most physical painting and drawing mediums, and in computer mediums as well,except I have only played with 3d programs similar to Maya. I'm also interested in a-life, though a lot of people don't consider that to be art.
What kind of subject matter do you do in your painting and drawing?
What is a-life?
zoobyshoe
Dec1-03, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by einsteinian77 who are your favorite artists? Mine are van gogh, Escher, and someone you probably haven't heard of
Yes, I think van Gogh was the greatest. Personally, I can't paint and I can't do landscapes, so I am mezmerized by his abilities with those two things.
Of course I like many, many artists, but he is my favorite.
zoobyshoe
Dec1-03, 12:52 AM
I don't have a scanner, myself, but maybe I could do it on a friend's computer. It would be fun to show my stuff.
Originally posted by Moni
Mainly people, portraits...few abstract drawings...just posted today:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9818
Beautiful drawing Moni.
I didn't have much time to answer the question yesterday. So here is the rest of my post.
I'm a lot like you zooby and rick. An artist interested in physics.
I've done works in oil, acrylic, watercolor, pen and ink, pencil, color pencil, charcoal, etc. even clay sculpture (I made several thousand dollars sculpting clay Bas Relief works with western themes that were turned into molds and copied with a carving machine into wooden panels for executive desks), and computer art, using Corel Draw and Paint Shop Pro.
My favorite medium is acrylic paint. I started painting in oils when I was about 9 years old and switched to acrylic when I heard they dry faster.
Of my recent painting projects I have two favorites, one is a series of imaginary nudes in outdoor settings in the moonlight and torchlight. The other is a series of planet paintings.
zoobyshoe
Dec2-03, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Artman I've done works in oil, acrylic, watercolor, pen and ink, pencil, color pencil, charcoal, etc. even clay sculpture
Hence, the name, no doubt.
(I made several thousand dollars sculpting clay Bas Relief works with western themes that were turned into molds and copied with a carving machine into wooden panels for executive desks), and computer art, using Corel Draw and Paint Shop Pro.
Way to go! It's difficult to get hooked up with the right people to get paid appropriately for your work.
Portraits of Native Americans are one of my own favorite subjects.
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Hence, the name, no doubt.
Yup.
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Way to go! It's difficult to get hooked up with the right people to get paid appropriately for your work.
Yup again. That was a great time for me as an artist. I was also going to the shore every couple of weeks to paint, as I would stand there working, someone would come along and buy the painting or commission another work. I live too far away from the shore to do that now.
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Portraits of Native Americans are one of my own favorite subjects.
I like the works of Remington and Charles Russell.
Photographs of Native Americans are interesting also.
zooby...i hope you are not just referring to art as drawing and painting...my fiance calls me an artisan because i create many different "useful" things that have my own artistic flair such as beadwork, cooking and my newest interest of quilting...quilting can be just like a painting with using vibrant olors of fabric that create an overall picture...to me, art is the human spirit at it's finest, and this is expressed in many different ways...
zoobyshoe
Dec3-03, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Kerrie
zooby...i hope you are not just referring to art as drawing and painting...my fiance calls me an artisan because i create many different "useful" things that have my own artistic flair such as beadwork, cooking and my newest interest of quilting...quilting can be just like a painting with using vibrant olors of fabric that create an overall picture...to me, art is the human spirit at it's finest, and this is expressed in many different ways...
Don't worry. In my mind art is anything that is done artistically.
I also have made quilts and have tons of books on quilting. I have seen quilts which, in my mind, should be hung in museums next to van Goghs and Monets.
For some people it is necessary to create a big distinction between things that are made solely to be beautiful and things that also have a utilitarian purpose. I have never had much interest in that distinction.
Music, noise, drawing, video, dance, sculptures, acting, spoken word, writting fiction, and radio are my most common.
some of it gets reccorded some not.
hypnagogue
Dec4-03, 01:42 AM
I've drawn ever since I was a kid, although I never had any formal training. My media has always been a number 2 pencil on a drawing pad (or pen in notebook paper [:)]). I wanted to take a painting course in college, but the scheduling was always bad (something like 9-12, or 12-3... always interfered with other classes I needed to take).
I have some drawings up on my web site if anyone is interested. Here are some of my favorites:
divinity (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/divinity.gif)
gravity (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/gravity.html)
lonely (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/lonely.html)
misery (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/misery.html)
evolution (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/evolution.html)
madness (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/madness.html)
lifa (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/lifa.html)
devolution (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/devolution.html)
zero (http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/bm56/art/zero.html)
As you can probably tell, the muse tends to be with me in the not-so-good times. [:)] I have found it incredibly cathartic at times to draw as an outlet for my emotions. But I tend to be very on again, off again with my art.
zoobyshoe
Dec4-03, 02:37 AM
Hypnagogue,
Your drawings show a great sence of composition, which I envy because I don't have that. You also can do a good line, by which I mean that the contours and form of some of the lines is an aesthetically pleasing event in and of itself. I also can't do that.
hypnagogue
Dec4-03, 03:18 AM
Thanks, zooby, for your comments. I have a general idea of what you mean by composition but I'm not sure if it's some special term for artwork.
I'm sure you can do many things in drawing that I just can't either. For instance, I always frustrate myself when I try to draw something specifically, either by planning an image beforehand or trying to copy something realistically. Since most drawing technique books I have looked at seem to rely on the skill of being able to draw precisely and put images to paper reliably, I have been discouraged from trying out more formal attempts at drawing. I find I draw best when I just go for it without thinking. A lot of my drawings start by drawing random squiggles and developing the picture from there as I go.
I suggest you give your friend a visit, because I would love to see your artwork. [:D]
zoobyshoe
Dec4-03, 04:12 AM
Composition in art is a matter of how all the elements are positioned relative to each other on the page. The word "balance" is often brought into discussions of composition, but in my mind it has more to do with harmony and dissonance, if you can think of those words in visual terms.
Composition in a straightforward portrait, which I do alot of, is a no-brainer. But in my colored pencil drawings which I do the same way you described - starting out doodling - I frequently loose sight of how one thing fits in with, and relates to everything else. The result is that the overall composition isn't particularly pleasing.
As far as realistic drawing goes, just get yourself a copy of "Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain". Should be in any library. The author, Betty Edwards, specializes in revolutionizing peoples basic ability to draw realistically in a short time. She has a solution for every frustration the self taught artist experiences. Once you get the hang of drawing realistically from life or photographs you can incorporate the skill into the works that come completely out of your immagination.
I'll see what I can do about getting access to a scanner.
hypnagogue,
Nice drawings.
You would probably be interested in something called the Voynich manuscipt. It's a mysterious document written in the middle ages in a language that has never been translated. It is full of drawings of unreal plants, astronomical and microscopic images, tiny naked figures, odd plumbing fixtures, etc. The illustrations in it are similar in style to your work.
Check this out: http://www.voynich.nu/ (http://www.voynich.nu)
Originally posted by Artman
Beautiful drawing Moni.
Thanks! Artman thank you very much [:)] [:)] [:)]
Originally posted by einsteinian77
I don't know how to upload, but maybe you can tell me how? I liked the gallery you showed me very much he seems like a very talented sketcher. I'd really like to show you my work so if you could tell me how to I would be grateful, thanks.
Thanks! You may become member and submit here:
http://www.gfxartist.com
And of course give the link here to share :)
hypnagogue
Dec7-03, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Artman
hypnagogue,
Nice drawings.
You would probably be interested in something called the Voynich manuscipt. It's a mysterious document written in the middle ages in a language that has never been translated. It is full of drawings of unreal plants, astronomical and microscopic images, tiny naked figures, odd plumbing fixtures, etc. The illustrations in it are similar in style to your work.
Check this out: http://www.voynich.nu/ (http://www.voynich.nu)
Interesting, Artman. Thanks for the comments and the link. I've never heard of this work before. Just from the herbal/pharmaceutical pictures in conjunction with the astronomical/astrological pictures, it seems to me that the manuscript may be shamanic in nature.
Just out of curiousity, what in my art reminded you of these illustrations?
Originally posted by hypnagogue
Interesting, Artman. Thanks for the comments and the link. I've never heard of this work before. Just from the herbal/pharmaceutical pictures in conjunction with the astronomical/astrological pictures, it seems to me that the manuscript may be shamanic in nature.
Just out of curiousity, what in my art reminded you of these illustrations?
The surreal biological feel of many of the drawings that you linked, such as your drawing titled "Evolution." Also, the undulating line and composition and the linear treatment of the nude in "Divinity."
You do nice work. Very creative, obviously drawn from your imagination.
I have always been a portrait artist, and when I lived in Chicago, I did accept commisions. My prefered medium is pencil, but about 14 years ago I branched out into charcoal & pastel.
My problem is that I have zero creativity, so I never considered myself an artist as much as a human xerox machine. My drawings look like photographs. I have always been able to draw exact duplicates of anything I see, but I can't invision things.
It's odd, but after I would do a drawing, I could not believe that I did it. Does anyone else feel that way?
Shortly after I moved into this house, all of my artwork had been temporarily stored in the basement & it flooded, destroying all but a few pieces. That part of me died that day. I haven't returned to drawing since. Maybe some day.
Moni, I remember you mentioning drawing & that's how I stumbled on this thread. I'd like to see more of your work.
zoobyshoe
Jan11-04, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Evo My problem is that I have zero creativity, so I never considered myself an artist as much as a human xerox machine. My drawings look like photographs. I have always been able to draw exact duplicates of anything I see, but I can't invision things.
I don't see this as a problem. What it means is that you're both perceptive and balanced rather than a "crazy" artist.
It's odd, but after I would do a drawing, I could not believe that I did it. Does anyone else feel that way?
The hours of adding tiny parts one by one build up into a sudden realization of the whole that doesn't seem like something you could have deliberately accomplished, yes.
Shortly after I moved into this house, all of my artwork had been temporarily stored in the basement & it flooded, destroying all but a few pieces. That part of me died that day. I haven't returned to drawing since. Maybe some day.
Thankfully the stuff you sold all probably still exists in good shape and is well displayed for people to enjoy somewhere. I take pictures of all the stuff I think is worth keeping a record of. Then if anything happens the piece still exists in photographic form, at least. I've never had the kind of disaster you had but twice I had plaster sculptures submitted to competitions dropped and smashed by the set up people.
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
The hours of adding tiny parts one by one build up into a sudden realization of the whole that doesn't seem like something you could have deliberately accomplished, yes.
No one has ever understood that, at least that I've spoken with. Perhaps the difference is that they already "saw" their picture before it became real.
Thankfully the stuff you sold all probably still exists in good shape and is well displayed for people to enjoy somewhere.[/B] I think so, since it was of loved ones. I wish I had taken more pictures. I have moved so often following my ex from state to state as his career progressed, that much has been lost or thrown out.
twice I had plaster sculptures submitted to competitions dropped and smashed by the set up people. [/B]
That is horrible.
Zooby, is there anything you don't do? I have to admit that I was surprised to find that you also draw. And sculpt? Competitively?
My hairy, drooling enigma...what other secrets do you hold?
zoobyshoe
Jan11-04, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Evo That is horrible.
Not as bad as that. They were actually both fixable.
Zooby, is there anything you don't do? I have to admit that I was surprised to find that you also draw. And sculpt? Competitively?
I used to enter amateur competitions. Nothing professional. It's a hobby that I go back to for a couple/three months every year.
My hairy, drooling enigma...what other secrets do you hold?
My handlers here at Area 51 would not be happy if I spilled certain beans.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan11-04, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Evo
My hairy, drooling enigma...what other secrets do you hold? Hey! hey! hey!, come on now, I stepped in and fixed that one! please, he is NOT drooling like that any more, it's just a little bit of "spittle" thats all....zoob (The Cat) wipe please
P.S. Do art too, watercolor, oil, drew in pencil, pen, colors, and charcoal too landscapes and scenery...no faces....(good reason too, personal)
zoobyshoe
Jan11-04, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons P.S. Do art too, watercolor, oil, drew in pencil, pen, colors, and charcoal too landscapes and scenery...no faces....(good reason too, personal)
This is quite a revelation. I never would have suspected. I bet your stuff is fascinating. Which medium did/do you enjoy working in most?
Thallium
Jan11-04, 09:14 AM
Wow! there are many artists here!
I draw with pencil myself. I love awkward human positures, hands, middleage warriors, elves and magical figures, hands, eyes and face expressions. Love it, love it and I draw a lot!
phatmonky
Jan11-04, 10:30 AM
My artwork is my music. I play violin and guitar (varied styles). [:)]
zoobyshoe
Jan11-04, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Thallium I love awkward human positures...
WHY? This is one of the reasons I can't stand Picasso: everyone looks so awkward and uncomfortable, in all the periods of his art. I don't see the point.
zoobyshoe
Jan11-04, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by phatmonky
My artwork is my music. I play violin and guitar (varied styles). [:)]
Actually, at the time I started this thread there was a separate, simultaneous thread about music going on. Music is, of course, art.
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Hey! hey! hey!, come on now, I stepped in and fixed that one! please, he is NOT drooling like that any more, it's just a little bit of "spittle" thats all....zoob (The Cat) wipe please
Yes, and a very good job! I'm almost completely dry.
[P.S. Do art too, watercolor, oil, drew in pencil, pen, colors, and charcoal too landscapes and scenery...no faces....(good reason too, personal) [/B]
Mr Parsons, you never cease to amaze me. Any chance we might ever see some of your work?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan11-04, 09:27 PM
Ahhh oil, and see it, humm given (most of?) it away....who knows maybe someday, just that, at present, I have little computer access to things like scanners, nevermind that the paintings (if there are any left) aren't here....
Thallium
Jan12-04, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
WHY? This is one of the reasons I can't stand Picasso: everyone looks so awkward and uncomfortable, in all the periods of his art. I don't see the point.
I did not mean like Picasso. I draw realistic human bodies like the ones of Michelangelo. When I say awkward positures I mean more like unusual positures, no frozen movements, but with a strange angle and very imaginative. Perhaps I could post one some time..
zoobyshoe
Jan12-04, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Thallium
When I say awkward positures I mean more like unusual positures, no frozen movements, but with a strange angle and very imaginative. Perhaps I could post one some time..
I would certainly be interested in seeing what you mean.
zoobyshoe
Jan12-04, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Ahhh oil, and see it, humm given (most of?) it away....who knows maybe someday, just that, at present, I have little computer access to things like scanners, nevermind that the paintings (if there are any left) aren't here....
A drawing pad protected by a proper plastic bag, pencils, a hand pencil sharpener, and you could, even in your present circumstances, produce more original Parsons' landscapes. Some angel would need to give a little financial boost; art pads aren't cheap.
Artsy friends and I used to gather and draw in public places with alot of foot traffic. It was a surefire way to get attention. People would stop, start up conversations, and want to see everything you had in the pad.
In the winter you might do it there in the Library, if you had no objection to using photographic landscapes from books as models.
Just some ideas.
Zooby
himanshu121
Jan12-04, 11:26 AM
For All The arts lover u have an interactive forum/post at
http://www.ratemyart.net/
It is a complete website where u can post ur art and also get rated for the same.
And Infact it is admin. by GREG
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan12-04, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
(SNIP) A drawing pad protected by a proper plastic bag, pencils, a hand pencil sharpener, and you could, even in your present circumstances, produce more original Parsons' landscapes. Some angel would need to give a little financial boost; art pads aren't cheap. (SNoP)
Appreciate the sentiment, had done some, but they were watercolors, and that freezes, that and I am used ot doing things in private and that is something that I simply do not have any more privacy, not on the computers, not in mylife otherthen whenI spend time out at the tent all by myself with the 'no running water' etc. etc.
Aside from that OIL is what I love doing, if you know anyhting about painting and you saw what I was doing, in watercolor, you would see that very clearly....so..I still await the responce of My government as they owe me a responce
....apparently Canada is (still) run by people who don't respond to their citizens, even when they are required to by law...what a lovely country...NOT! [!:)] [:((]
zoobyshoe
Jan13-04, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Appreciate the sentiment, had done some, but they were watercolors, and that freezes, that and I am used ot doing things in private and that is something that I simply do not have any more privacy, not on the computers, not in mylife otherthen whenI spend time out at the tent all by myself with the 'no running water' etc. etc.
Yes, I can appreciate the need for solitude in most artistic pursuits. I think most artists work best in privacy when it is possible.
Aside from that OIL is what I love doing, if you know anyhting about painting and you saw what I was doing, in watercolor, you would see that very clearly...
Oil is the monarch of media, I think. Unbelievable effects possible.
Still, it is expensive and space consuming to store. Some artists, most notably van Gogh, were able to achieve astonishingly colorful effects with the cheaper, easier medium of pencil, or pencil mixed with pen and ink, on common cardboard. I have a print of a van Gogh landscape in pencil and ink that astonishes me every time I look at it. It is equal to any of his paintings, I think.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan13-04, 08:07 PM
Watched a show on television, recently, that had a group of students learning Carpentry, Craftsmanship Carpentry, Most telling aspect, to me, was the instructor telling the students to act as if "time didn't matter"....let's go paint....
Use to do (would still, just that...) photography as well, 400 photos on just one of the western trips I had taken last century, (but my average would have been bout 100 per trip x 5 trips = lots of pictures!) and some really nice shots of rather esoteric sites on the (Canadian) face of the planet.
Used a Cannon AE one time, an Automatic so you could adjust the F stop, but not the shutter speed...had a Minolta after that one, liked that one too, started on a Zenith, Russian made, sorta simple, and a bit 'boxy', but great for a starter 35 mm SLR camera waaaaay back then....but no more of that...least not now...
Oh Yes I suppose I could be producing now, watercolors or something, but I need new glasses, need to get my eyes re-tested, as it has been some time since the last time and my distance vision has changed, don't want to generate eyestrain...yadda-yadda-yadda....([o)] <-- Look! He's complaining, WOW, what's gonna happen next??, "tune into this station same *** time, Same *** channel"
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