How is the Gravitational Field Calculated at a Point P between Two Equal Masses?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational field at a point P located on the perpendicular bisector between two equal masses separated by a distance of 2a. Participants are exploring the components of the gravitational field and the implications of distance in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are examining the contributions of each mass to the gravitational field at point P, questioning how to correctly define the distance "r" in their calculations. There are discussions about the cancellation of horizontal components and the calculation of vertical components based on different interpretations of the geometry involved.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the gravitational field contributions and questioning the assumptions made regarding distances and angles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of forces and the use of vector components, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the labeling of variables in diagrams and the implications of using specific distances in the gravitational field equations. Participants are also reflecting on the independence of forces exerted by the masses on the test mass at point P.

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Compue the magnitude and direction of the gravitational field at a point P on the perpendicular bisector of the line joining two objects of equal mass separated by a distance of 2a.
So:
[MASS] ---------------- 2a ------------------[MASS]
.......|
.......r
.......|
.......|
.......P
To calculate the resultant field, i assumed that the x direction of the resultant field is 0. Since the masses are equal, and therefore exert equal but opposite forces. Hence Resulant(X) = 0 N.
The y direction, according to my calculations, has a resultant field of [tex]\frac{2GM}{r^2}[/tex]. Since mass 1 exerts a force of [tex]\frac{GM}{r^2}[/tex] and so does mass 2.
Shouldn't the resultant gravitational field be the field in the y direction i calculated and mentioned above?
The correct answer is [tex]\frac{2GMr}{(a^2+r^2)^{3/2}}[/tex] towards the center of mass. HOW?
 
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What were you going to use for "r" in your formula?
there are three interesting distances in this diagram:
1) a
2) p
3) sqrt(a^2 + p^2)
 
For the 'y' resultant gravitational field, r is simply r as drawn in the diagram.
 
each source mass can be treated as if it exerted an independent Force on the "test mass" (at the field point). The "r" on the bottom of the g = GM/r^2 formula is the distance from the Source Mass to the field point (the place of interest).
The gravitational field contribution decreases with distance from the source, each source pulls independently.
(They're not smart enough to know where the other source masses are)
[You should NEVER use a special variable (like "r") as a label in a diagram]
I presume you've added Force vectors before, that were not co-linear?
here you have two more to add. Yes, the x-components cancel.
the "p/sqrt(a^2 + p^2)" is opp/hyp
 
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I'm confused.
Say the diagram is like this:
[MASS] ---------------- 2a ------------------[MASS]
.......|
.......|
.......|
.......|
.......P

Where r is the hypotenuse. So the horizontal forces cancel. And each vertical force should be equal to [tex]\frac{GMr}{r^2 - a^2}[/tex]. Shouldn't the resultant force be two times that? ([tex]\frac{2GMr}{r^2 - a^2}[/tex]
 
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each contribution to the gravity field is GM/r^2 .
Its "vertical" component is g sin(theta) = g p/r ,
with p^2 = (r^2 - a^2) being the offset from x-axis.

How did you get (r^2 - a^2) on the bottom?

An alternative form of contribution formula for a source mass is
g = GM (r_vector)/|r^3| , where r_vector is the vector (components) from the field point to the source mass.
 
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