Optimizing PRS in an Optimization Problem (See Attachment)

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The discussion revolves around an optimization problem involving the length of a rope connecting two poles, where participants are trying to determine the conditions for minimizing this length. The subject area includes concepts from geometry and trigonometry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify what needs to be optimized and questions the nature of the restrictions, particularly regarding the constancy of QT. They present equations related to the lengths and angles involved. Other participants discuss the requirement to minimize the total length of the rope and suggest using trigonometric relationships to express this length. Some participants also mention a geometric interpretation involving reflections.

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Participants are actively exploring different interpretations and approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the angles and the length of the rope, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed. The original poster seeks further clarification and assistance.

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There are constraints mentioned regarding the fixed heights of the poles, although specific values are not provided. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the optimization process and the validity of their attempts.

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I don't quite understand what i am supposed to optimize, and what my restriction formula is. Is QT constant? But in that case, how could i optimize PRS?
I tried the following:
[tex]l = PR + RS[/tex]

[tex]PR^2 = PQ^2 + QR^2[/tex]

[tex]cos\theta1= \frac{QR}{PR}[/tex]

[tex]PR = \frac{QR}{cos\theta1}[/tex]

Similarly, [tex]RS = \frac{TR}{cos\theta2}[/tex]

So [tex]l = \frac{TR}{cos\theta2} + \frac{QR}{cos\theta1}[/tex]

But i don't see where this could go.
Thank you.
 

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The problem says "show that the shortest length of the rope occurs when [itex]\theta_1= \theta_2[/tex]".<br /> <br /> It is the total length of the rope you wish to minimize.<br /> <br /> The heights of the two poles are fixed (but not given, call them "P" and "S"). The rope consists of the hypotenuses of two right triangles with angles [itex]\theta_1[/itex] and [itex]\theta_2[/itex]. You can write the total length of the rope in terms of trig functions of [itex]\theta_1[/itex] and [itex]\theta_2[/itex]. <br /> <br /> Another way to do this, without using calculus or trigonometry, is to imagine one of the poles extending <b>down</b> into the ground! (This is a simple case of the "method of reflections".) Do you see that the shortest rope would be a straight line between the two pole ends? Isn't it obvious then that the two angles must be the same? The hard part is proving, geometrically, that exactly the same situation gives the shortest length for the two poles as given.[/itex]
 
What you said is exactly what I did. (l = total rope length)

Can you please approve the attachment? Thank you.
 
dekoi said:
What you said is exactly what I did. (l = total rope length)
Can you please approve the attachment? Thank you.


I already tried to do this problem using the suggested method. It did not work. Please give me further explanation.
 

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