Anti-gravity - is it far from us?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of anti-gravity, exploring the potential for its development, the ideas and technologies proposed, and the underlying physics principles. Participants share their thoughts on the feasibility of anti-gravity technologies and the current understanding of gravity itself.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how far we are from developing anti-gravity technology and what ideas are being explored.
  • Another participant asserts that there are no ideas or technologies currently geared towards anti-gravity, citing a lack of understanding of gravity itself.
  • Some participants mention that there are proposals related to anti-gravity, specifically referencing supercooled semiconductors and the Podkletnov effect, while noting that these ideas are not proven.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the existence of anti-gravity, suggesting it may not even exist.
  • Newton's third law is discussed, with participants questioning its application to gravity and suggesting that the reaction to gravitational pull is present all around us.
  • One participant emphasizes that engineering designs cannot be developed without first verifying the underlying phenomena, criticizing the discussion's focus on engineering before establishing validity.
  • Another participant reflects on the difficulty of grasping the concept of mutual gravitational attraction between objects, expressing concern about their understanding of physics.
  • There are claims that anti-gravity research has largely resulted in unsubstantiated theories and hoaxes, with one participant dismissing the field as lacking scientific rigor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and existence of anti-gravity technologies, with no consensus reached. Some argue that there are potential ideas worth exploring, while others firmly believe that the field lacks credible research and understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of verifying scientific phenomena before pursuing engineering applications, indicating a potential gap in the current understanding of gravity and anti-gravity concepts.

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How far are we from developing this technology, also, what idea and technologies are being used to propose this to make it a possible reality?
 
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It's about as far away as something can get. There are no ideas or technologies geared toward it. We don't even know what gravity is yet.
 
Ehh... I wouldn't go as far as saying there are 'no' ideas geared towards it because I have seen numerous articles and proposals pertaining to anti-gravity (I'm not saying they are proven, or even work for that matter), but I think that our best bet would be supercooled semi-conductors from what I have read in the past.
 
It may not even exist...
 
Hmm I don't know... Newton's third law: "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." could this also apply to gravity itself?
 
josephjah said:
Hmm I don't know... Newton's third law: "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." could this also apply to gravity itself?

Then the reaction should be all around us.
 
josephjah said:
Ehh... I wouldn't go as far as saying there are 'no' ideas geared towards it because I have seen numerous articles and proposals pertaining to anti-gravity (I'm not saying they are proven, or even work for that matter), but I think that our best bet would be supercooled semi-conductors from what I have read in the past.

Er... you may mean supercooled superconductors as in the Podkletnov effect. If this is correct, you may want to do a search on here on that. As far as the physics community goes, this is a non-effect that has not been successfully reproduced, even by Podkletnov itself.

There will NEVER been an "engineering design" of a phenomenon that has not been verified. One verifies and understands the phenomenon FIRST, and then the engineering aspect of it comes next. So why this question is being asked in this forum before the validity aspect of it is established, I have no idea.

And oh, Newton's 3rd law works very well already with gravity. The "reaction" here is the pull on the Earth by the object the same way the object is being pulled by the earth. I thought this was clearly covered in intro Physics classes already?

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
And oh, Newton's 3rd law works very well already with gravity. The "reaction" here is the pull on the Earth by the object the same way the object is being pulled by the earth. I thought this was clearly covered in intro Physics classes already?
Zz.

I'm still rather amazed that I can't really grasp the idea that I am pulling on the Earth as well. I'm going to be a useless physicist.
 
Sorry vincentm, this isn't engineering - it isn't even physics. All anti-gravity research has produced so far is crackpots, lawsuits, and entertaining hoaxes.
 
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Pengwuino said:
I'm still rather amazed that I can't really grasp the idea that I am pulling on the Earth as well. I'm going to be a useless physicist.

Same force, different masses, hence different accelerations.

Earth pulls your body with ~1000N force, which is enough to get you moving; OTOH, those same 1000N would barely move a 4000 tons cargo ship... let alone a whole planet.
 

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