Calculating Kinetic Energy and Average Force in a Wall Push Experiment

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving kinetic energy and average force in the context of a person pushing against a wall after traveling at a certain speed. The scenario includes a 110kg individual moving at 3 m/s on a frictionless surface and stopping by pushing against the wall, with a specific distance of 0.3 m mentioned.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between initial and final velocities to determine the change in kinetic energy. Questions arise regarding the formulas needed to calculate average force and the relevance of center of mass in this context.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on kinetic energy calculations and the application of the Work-Energy theorem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematics and Newton's 2nd law to find average force, though confusion remains about the necessity of center of mass concepts.

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There is a mention of the problem being derived from a chapter on center of mass, leading to some uncertainty about its relevance to the current problem. Participants are also navigating the implications of the formulas and concepts involved in the calculations.

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I don't understand how to approach this question, I'm lost in where energy gets involved. Any help would be appreciated :smile:

A 110kg person is traveling at 3 m/s on a frictionless surface toward a wall, then stops themselves by pushing against the wall. During the push, the person's center of mass moves 0.3 m toward the wall. What is the change of the person's kinetic energy, and what is the average force exerted on the wall?
 
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answer these questions and see how you can connect them to each other
what is the
initial velocity?
final velocity?
Given the above two can you find the change in kinetic energy?

Also what is the distance covered while stopping?
What is the formula for force?
Givne the first three quantities, V2, V1 and D, can you find the force? Hint: what is the formula for force? What you need in that formula.
 
So the change in kinetic energy would be

Kf - Ki = chng in K

where Kf = 0 and Ki = 1/2 (110kg)(3m/s) = 165J

chng in K = 165 J

and for the second part I'm still confused on what formula to use, would the distance covered during the stop be x2 in:

Xcom = [m(x1) + m(x2)] / m ?

I don't think it is
 
KE = (1/2)mv²
 
Yeah, I caught that error. How to get the average force still boggles me though
 
This problem has nothing to do with calculating the center of mass. It's an application of the "Work-Energy theorem". (Look it up.)

If you haven't covered that theorem, you can always find the average acceleration (using kinematics) and apply Newton's 2nd law to get the average force.
 
So center of mass isn't needed at all? I just assumed it would be because the question came out of the center of mass chapter in my textbook.
 
All you need to know is the displacement of the center of mass...and that's given.
 

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