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The discussion revolves around solving a diffusion equation, specifically the equation Ut = Uxx, with initial value conditions defined for a function phi(x). Participants express confusion regarding the formulation of the problem and the appropriate methods to apply, particularly in the context of boundary conditions and the use of transforms.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants suggest using Laplace transforms and Fourier transforms to approach the problem. Others question the initial conditions and the interpretation of the function phi(x), debating whether it is correctly defined as a function of both x and t or just x. There are also discussions about the application of the heat kernel and the implications of integrating over specific intervals.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and the mathematical tools that may be applicable. There is no clear consensus, but several lines of reasoning and approaches have been proposed, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the textbook and express frustration with the clarity of the examples provided. There is also mention of specific values for L and the implications of those values on the solution.

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I need help with Diffusion on the Whole Line.

For instance, my first homework problem is:

Solve the diffusion equation Ut = Uxx with the initial value conditions phi(x) = 1 for |x| > l, phi(x) = 0 for |x| < l. I don't know what to do, and the book I'm using isn't the least bit enlightening.
 
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Have you tried solving the diffusion equation using a Laplace transform wrt to the time variable?
 
Hadrian said:
I need help with Diffusion on the Whole Line.
For instance, my first homework problem is:
Solve the diffusion equation Ut = Uxx with the initial value conditions phi(x) = 1 for |x| > l, phi(x) = 0 for |x| < l. I don't know what to do, and the book I'm using isn't the least bit enlightening.

Your book won't be enlightening if you don't take more care in reading it. No, the problem does NOT say " phi(x) = 1 for |x| > l, phi(x) = 0 for |x| < l". That doesn't make sense- phi is a function of both x and t. I suspect that the problem says: phi(x,0)= 1 for |x|> 1, ph(x,0)= |x|< 1. Also, there will have to be boundary conditions on x: probabably that the solution stays bounded as x goes to both infinity and -infinity. Looks to me like you will need a Fourier Transform solution: write phi(x,t) in the form
[tex]\phi(x,t)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}f(t)e^{ixs}ds[/tex].
Put that into the differential equation to get an ordinary differential equations for f(t).
 
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Phi is not a function of x and t, only x. The solution equation u(x,t) is a function of x and t... maybe you could picture phi(x) as being u(x,0), but I don't think that's quite right either. Also, it's |x| < the letter l, not 1. Here are exact words:

"Solve the diffusion equation with the initial condition

phi(x) = 1 for |x| < L and phi(x) = 0 for |x| > L.

Write your answer in terms of Erf(x) <== the error function of statistics."

The only thing I'm left to go on is the equation the guy derived in the section:

1/(4*pi*k*t)^(1/2)*[integral from -infinity to infinity] {exp((-(x-y)^2)/4kt) * phi(y) * dy}

In one of the examples, an initial condition was given without constraints, and it was in terms of x. He then proceeded to plug it into the equation given above as the same function, in terms of y.

I say the book sucks because it dedicates all of two pages to this topic, and it's very very veryyyyy ambiguous with the examples; it doesn't really let me know how I should go about solving a problem of this nature.

Also, that image didn't work. I think I need software?

Thanks for telling me what my book says, though :)
 
Is this the problem:


[tex]\text{DE:}\quad \frac{\partial u}{\partial t}=\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial t^2};\quad -\infty<x<\infty,\quad t>0[/tex]

[tex]\text{IC:}\quad u(x,0)=\Phi(x)=<br /> \left\{<br /> \begin{array}{rcl}<br /> 1 & \mbox{for} & |x|\le L \\<br /> 0 & \mbox{for} & |x|>L<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right[/tex]

As you so stated, the solution is given by the heat kernel:

[tex]u(x,t)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{4\pi t}}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-(x-y)^2/4t} \Phi(y)dy[/tex]

So there you go . . . now, plug in [itex]\Phi(x)[/tex] (use any value of L for starters like L=1) and then express the integral as you so indicated.<br /> <br /> Try and find in the library, "Basic Partial Differential Equations" by D. Bleecker and G. Csordas.<br /> <br /> Edit: Oh yea, a plot wouldn't hurt neither you know.[/itex]
 
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I don't understand. I'm supposed to plug in zero for phi? doesn't that just give me zero? I'm so confused by this material that my brain is imploding.
 
Hadrian said:
I don't understand. I'm supposed to plug in zero for phi? doesn't that just give me zero? I'm so confused by this material that my brain is imploding.

Well, let's say for example that L=1. So for the integral:

[tex]u(x,t)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{4\pi t}}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-(x-y)^2/4t} \Phi(y)dy[/tex]

Phi is non-zero only in [-1,1], everywhere else it's zero so the integral is zero there too. So isn't that the same as:

[tex]u(x,t)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{4\pi t}}\int_{-1}^{1} e^{-(x-y)^2/4t} (1)dy[/tex]

So what's the value at x=15 and t=100? Wouldn't that be:

[tex]u(15,100)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{4\pi (100)}}\int_{-1}^{1} e^{-(15-y))^2/(400)} (1)dy[/tex]
 

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