Paradox in Solving y``+8y`+16y=64cosh4x

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation y``+8y`+16y=64cosh4x, focusing on the method of undetermined coefficients and the associated homogeneous equation.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the method of undetermined coefficients but encounters a paradox in their calculations. Other participants suggest alternative methods such as reduction of order and highlight the need to consider the solutions to the homogeneous equation.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some offering guidance on potential methods and corrections to previous suggestions. There is a recognition of the original poster's confusion regarding their assumptions.

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There is an indication that the method of undetermined coefficients may not be suitable for the given function, and participants are questioning the assumptions made in the original approach.

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y``+8y`+16y=64cosh4x

my problem:
suppose yp=c1cosh4x+c2sinh4x
then yp`=4c1sinh4x+4c2cosh4x
so yp``=16c1cosh4x+16sinh4x

so 16c1cosh4x+16sinh4x +8(4c1sinh4x+4c2cosh4x)+16(c1cosh4x+c2sinh4x)= (32c1+32c2)cosh4x+(32c2+32c1)sinh4x

which implies that (32c1+32c2)=0 and (32c2+32c1)=0 which is paradoxing!
does anybody know what went wrong?
 
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Try reduction of order. In using this method you can take just part of the solution to the associated homogeneous equation. I would try [tex]y = u\left( x \right)e^{ - 4x}[/tex]. Any 'non-exponentials' eg polynomials in the complimentary solution get absorbed into u(x). Try the substitution I suggested and see if it leads anywhere.

Edit: The method of undetermined coefficients only works for a few types of functions.

Edit 2: I made an error in my suggested substitution. Fixed now.
 
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Did you notice that e-4x and xe-4x are solutions to the homogeneous equation? Since 64 cosh 4x= 32(e4x+ e-4x) , you will have to multiply by x2. I would recommend trying y= Ae4x+ Bx2e-4x.
 
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hmmm... then what's wrong with my orignal assumptions? @@
 

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